Media Discussion - 2023/24

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Dipper Pornhub aka ESPN keep up the narrative that City and liverpool are even. The article is worse than the headline with us "sharing the last 4 prems" etc...

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Last 7+ years

City - 3, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, current 1 - trophies 13 (15 Inc Charity shield)
Liverpool - 4, 4, 2, 1, 3, 2, 5 current 2 - trophies (7 Inc shield)

We're not even. We're far fucking superior.
 

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johnevans said:
All true (and conveniently ignored by media herberts such as this tosser; 'Herbert' by name, 'herbert' by nature..). To expand on your post:

(a) No guaranteed football involvement, no stadium built (initially, it was offered to the Red Filth across town but they declined, 'preferring to develop Old Toilet'.. that turned out well, didn't it?)

(b) No agreement with City from the start, no stadium built and no successful Commonwealth Games in Manchester 2002.

(c) No successful Commonwealth Games in Manchester 2002, no Olympics in London 2012. Definite.

(d) City pay rent a-plenty to the local council as you say and also developed the ground by completing the full North stand and digging out the athletics track to reveal the lower layer and the full stadium (I understand this cost met by City taking out the bond of £25M approx. onto the club's financial books).

(e) Manchester Council took over and sold Maine Road to developers, earning north of £20M in the process towards council funds, so I understand?

(f) Incredible additional development of the area around the ground, transforming the wasteland that was East Manchester, again at a significant cost to the club, in excess of £220M as I understand it.

(g) South stand development also completed, with the North stand extension underway too. All costs once again being met by the club.

So..

A 'free stadium' like with the West Ham situation, when an incompetent, desperate set of government buffoons threw everything, every possible incentive at a football club to take a 'White Elephant' off its hands?

Do me a favour, Herbert.. just get to f**k with your partial, snide articles.
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Really good points but you’ve missed off the wider positive impact the club has had on the city of Manchester in terms of its global image which has benefited the conurbation in respect of inward investment and tourism in the billions of pounds. This is undeniable and overwhelms any petty, small-time arguments around the stadium, our occupation of which was key to the takeover.
 
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cheekybids said:
The fact that Abu Dhabi has faced more criticism since would shows it’s failed if it was a sports washing project….

Financially it’s been a winner so if it was sportswashing they’d have cashed out….

Further evidence it was a flawed argument from glory hunting Dipper fans that believe they are victims… your just not allowed to say it.
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He assumes that our criticism of critics of the club is based on love for the owner not the club or any legitimate criticism of the the criticisms
 
WRicko said:
He assumes that our criticism of critics of the club is based on love for the owner not the club or any legitimate criticism of the the criticisms
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It starts from the totally false premise that the UAE had a terrible reputation prior to the takeover and that buying us was a cynical attempt to 'sportswash' that.

I'll be honest, I consider myself well-informed but I couldn't have placed Abu Dhabi on a map or named anyone associated with it prior to 2008. Buying City has had the effect of bringing Abu Dhabi to prominence, and highlighting various issues there, rather than glossing over them. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see that, a demographic that doesn't appear to include the three authors of that paper.
 
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