I’m all for defending the club but I would find gay rights in Abu Dhabi a bit of a tough one to defend if I’m honest.Good work.
My mates’ WhatsApp group contains three reds. One copied Rob Draper’s tweet which said something along the lines of having to be of limited intelligence to think it was a City win. So I posted Stefan’s response saying I’d sooner take his word than a know nowt hack. After he’d questioned Stefan’s credentials, even that he was not from Manchester oddly (I pointed out ex Manchester Grammar) he moved on to Mancini, gay
rights in AD, APT, FFP, P&S et al and he was schooled in every one. Thanks in no small way by the many knowledgeable posters on here.
At the end, after having no comebacks left, another red came on and said, he’s good isn’t he Mark!
I ended it all with a 14th gif! :).
Dale - dress age appropriately - not haircut age.I don't think Dale said anything egregious there tbh.
You can see who runs the PL and who their media luvvies are, 'cos if you had a club like MCFC has been over the last fifteen years it's clearly what the majority of fans beyond the redshite diaspora want to see -North America, Asia - and you'd expect the league to cherish them, promote them. Not to give them preferential treatment, but if Scudamore was interested in 'the brand' then MCFC is very much at the pinnacle of that brand, but what do the league do? Why, they try to stymy the club at every turn and set up rules and regulations that are meant to curtail any attempt for City to progress. They've done as good a job of that as they have of defending what's good in the game.They should look for the best run club in PL and ask them to run the PL
No idea what it's like now or even 'back in the day' but, what I will say is when I was over there for a City friendly 2009 I think. I saw quite a few gay guys openly walking on the main streets hand in hand with no hassle from anyone.I’m all for defending the club but I would find gay rights in Abu Dhabi a bit of a tough one to defend if I’m honest.
Not that I’m sure it’s particularly directly relevant to City or a discussion about football financing to be fair.
That's the beauty of being on here. You see comments on FFP/PSR/ATPs from so many different angles, and from so many well-informed posters.Good work.
My mates’ WhatsApp group contains three reds. One copied Rob Draper’s tweet which said something along the lines of having to be of limited intelligence to think it was a City win. So I posted Stefan’s response saying I’d sooner take his word than a know nowt hack. After he’d questioned Stefan’s credentials, even that he was not from Manchester oddly (I pointed out ex Manchester Grammar) he moved on to Mancini, gay
rights in AD, APT, FFP, P&S et al and he was schooled in every one. Thanks in no small way by the many knowledgeable posters on here.
At the end, after having no comebacks left, another red came on and said, he’s good isn’t he Mark!
I ended it all with a 14th gif! :).
No idea what it's like now or even 'back in the day' but, what I will say is when I was over there for a City friendly 2009 I think. I saw quite a few gay guys openly walking on the main streets hand in hand with no hassle from anyone.
Without stereotyping, no it wasn't.That was probably cultural, rather than exhibiting a sexual preference.
Without stereotyping, no it wasn't.
If talking to a united fan and they bring it up, you just mention the continuing decade+ Saudi telecom sponsorship , and their soccer school academy in Saudi.I’m all for defending the club but I would find gay rights in Abu Dhabi a bit of a tough one to defend if I’m honest.
Not that I’m sure it’s particularly directly relevant to City or a discussion about football financing to be fair.
Thanks for the balanced response and yeah that’s fair. I assume the practical reality is people live mostly uninterrupted lives. I should also add I’m not gay and have never been to Abh Dhabi so in many ways very unqualified to comment. But there is something that makes me uneasy about places that deem it a crime even if it is a technicality.No idea what it's like now or even 'back in the day' but, what I will say is when I was over there for a City friendly 2009 I think. I saw quite a few gay guys openly walking on the main streets hand in hand with no hassle from anyone.
I realise there's much more to people's rights than being able to walk outside but I think in the UK you'd have had grief doing what they were doing in the 70's.
If talking to a united fan and they bring it up, you just mention the continuing decade+ Saudi telecom sponsorship , and their soccer school academy in Saudi.
Or , when speaking of gay rights, there decade+ long Aeroflot deal (terminated quietly after the 2nd Ukraine invasion).
The hypocrisy of the red cartel fans is astounding, but they never own up to it.
Thanks for the balanced response and yeah that’s fair. I assume the practical reality is people live mostly uninterrupted lives. I should also add I’m not gay and have never been to Abh Dhabi so in many ways very unqualified to comment. But there is something that makes me uneasy about places that deem it a crime even if it is a technicality.
I guess where I’m at is:
Is it something I think about regularly/at all if I’m being honest - no
Is it a facet I would defend of a nation and it’s culture - no
Really not having a dig at anyone btw - I was musing that in my own case I sometimes maybe have been a bit too unequivocal in the defence of our club and have been dragged into defending other things which are not really football related. For my part I started to find the relentlessness of defending attacks on City a bit exhausting and now I just tell people I just go to watch the football and don’t really want to argue about my club’s financing or ownership model.
Yeah I totally agree about the hypocrisy. A lot of it is just wilful blindness to be honest (and let’s face it a lot of the people who talk loudest are not the brightest sparks or particularly well informed so doesn’t really matter what you say).If talking to a united fan and they bring it up, you just mention the continuing decade+ Saudi telecom sponsorship , and their soccer school academy in Saudi.
Or , when speaking of gay rights, there decade+ long Aeroflot deal (terminated quietly after the 2nd Ukraine invasion).
The hypocrisy of the red cartel fans is astounding, but they never own up to it.
I agree. And yes it’s easier said than done when some smug little armchair red shirt is spouting nonsense at you, on top of the constant barrage in all sections of the mediaAnd I suspect that many of us feel exactly the same way.
The constant shit that is thrown at the club is truly horrendous and draining.
I think the redshirt propaganda machine has done a number on so many which is affecting the enjoyment of the team's performances.
I guess the answer is to try and turn a blind eye to the cunts and say fuck 'em, but it isn't always easy when shit is being thrown from so many angles.
Think it’s time we all realised that a persons opinion is not worth reading or listening to unless they have educated themselves on the core issues.
You can’t fight back against the media and football zombie horde. Instead, equip yourself with knowledge and decide when you want to get involved.
It has gone too far now that common ground does not exist.
Think it’s time we all realised that a persons opinion is not worth reading or listening to unless they have educated themselves on the core issues.
You can’t fight back against the media and football zombie horde. Instead, equip yourself with knowledge and decide when you want to get involved.
It has gone too far now that common ground does not exist.
I’m all for defending the club but I would find gay rights in Abu Dhabi a bit of a tough one to defend if I’m honest.
Not that I’m sure it’s particularly directly relevant to City or a discussion about football financing to be fair.