Media Thread 2020/21

[Citizen Green]

Great post

Thank you sir.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Here's my two pennies worth on the whole sports washing debate (if anyone is interested)

I feel when Sheikh Mansour bought the club back in 2008 it is fairly clear it was with Abu Dhabi's backing, he is a member of their Royal Family after all. It was widely known that the UAE at that time were investing in industries around the world in order to build an economy less reliant on oil (there's that word) and one that could also fall back on various enterprises. Some of these included Virgin Galactic, the bail out of Barclays in '08 & clearly the acquisition of Manchester City.

Now, where I differ with the view point in that video is that I don't see this as being about clearing their image to the West or any other sinister motives for that matter. It is more about getting into the Western market in a way that has allowed them to secure their future, build influence and trade with a view to remaining on the world stage once the oil isn't viable. As a result we have seen in our own club the incredible job they have done in turning City into the best run football club on the planet along with the redevelopment of East Manchester.

Now let's look at the facts:

- Human rights abuses:

Whilst it's clear human rights are far from perfect in the UAE, it is in my view, very hypocritical for the press of the very nation that divided and fractured the region in the aftermath of WW1 to sit in their ivory towers and criticize the UAE, which for a start, holds a complete set of moral values to the West via the Sharia it follows as part of it's core identity. We all know the Middle East isn't Disney Land, but let's also not demonize the countries there that are actually rapidly improving and implanting Western culture, even giving to it, when it was the west that fractured and plundered the region of it's natural resources in the first place.

- Soft Power:

This, is just plain old Capitalism. Powerful people buy into industries for influence for all manner of reasons, it's is as old as the Pound itself. However, it would appear to me that it is only a problem when brown Muslim people do it, rather than the traditional white Westerners. If anyone can show me the facts of how Sheikh Mansour buying Manchester City, and then using it to develop land around Manchester and the UK, for better leverage with the UK government in other business ventures, has been a bad thing, I'll hold my hands up, however I will require solid evidence.

- City are bad for the game:

Our chairman nailed it best when he said 'we will not be held accountable for the poor decisions of other football clubs' or something to that effect. You can have all the resources in the world, but if you don't put the right people in the right place and invest in the right areas you just end up with an expensive mess, see FC Barcelona for a clear modern example of this, or Man Utd until recently. We ourselves are where we are today because we have invested wisely and built steadily with a clear model in place. City's investment has opened the door to the likes of Leicester, Tottenham & others to seriously complete in the Premier League, as before the takeover the Top 4 consisted of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool year in, year out. Collecting all of that CL revenue and creating a gap to the rest. We have shattered that and redistributed money around the game, leading to a much better Premier League.

To summarize:

Our owners aren't perfect, if I could change the human rights abuses in the Middle East as a whole I would, but at the same time I respect that the UAE is trying to get better in comparison with the wider region, they are growing at a rapid rate whilst taking the best of Western culture to do so & that they have a different culture to our own. Just look at what they've done for the City of Manchester, women's football, the LGBT culture within the football club, this is just the stuff we know about. We haven't even touched the service on their other investments/business portfolio. They are not quite the brown backward Muslim's these groups make them out to be.

I also can not take the reporting of the likes of Miguel Delaney to be informed and factual, when, during our FFP trial he was presented with a brilliantly written article by a lawyer which pretty much detailed and called how the case would go, and totally dismissed it. It proved he has a narrative he is driven by regardless of facts. Any journalist worth his salt would of taken that info on board and ran with it.

Now, back to the Football

You seem to think it’s all about race, but Sheffield’s owners aren’t getting anywhere near the flak we are.
Leicester’s owners aren’t white or western, nor is Aston Villa’s Nassef Sawiris.
Neither in fact are Southampton or west brom’s owner or indeed wolves.

Blaming racism is a lazy cop-out. The real issue is we became disruptive to those at the top.
I am 100% convinced that even if John Smith, a British man who raised his fortune from his sheer ability to be British, owned us if we did what we did, they’d still hate us.

 

[Blue Mist]

You seem to think it’s all about race, but Sheffield’s owners aren’t getting anywhere near the flak we are.
Leicester’s owners aren’t white or western, nor is Aston Villa’s Nassef Sawiris.
Neither in fact are Southampton or west brom’s owner or indeed wolves.

Blaming racism is a lazy cop-out. The real issue is we became disruptive to those at the top.
I am 100% convinced that even if John Smith, a British man who raised his fortune from his sheer ability to be British, owned us if we did what we did, they’d still hate us.

British owned - City owned.
If he won the money to buy us on the lottery it wouldn't be real money, if sold his mobile phone business he was made rich by slave labour in China.
A dot com business equals tax dodger.
Old money and it is linked to the african/West Indian slave trade.
You are bang on. It isn't about race, it is because we are successful and have upset the corrupt cartel.

 

[Citizen Green]

You seem to think it’s all about race, but Sheffield’s owners aren’t getting anywhere near the flak we are.
Leicester’s owners aren’t white or western, nor is Aston Villa’s Nassef Sawiris.
Neither in fact are Southampton or west brom’s owner or indeed wolves.

Blaming racism is a lazy cop-out. The real issue is we became disruptive to those at the top.
I am 100% convinced that even if John Smith, a British man who raised his fortune from his sheer ability to be British, owned us if we did what we did, they’d still hate us.

No clearly it isn't all about race, but the inference I take from a lot of the hate towards our owners is that the fact a powerful Muslim owner buying into the UK economy doesn't sit well with a lot who view the region with suspicious eyes.

Of course we are also hated for smashing the 'traditional' cozy all boys club at the top of English/European football, and in return they have released their journalist hounds on us for the last 10+ years to smear us or implemented flimsy FFP regs, I think that is also clear.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Great post

It was, but it didn't need to bring Delaney into the discussion. His views, his intellect are both so lacking that anything he has to say has nugatory weight; other than as a means to mock the stupid ****.

 

[iceman]

No clearly it isn't all about race, but the inference I take from a lot of the hate towards our owners is that the fact a powerful Muslim owner buying into the UK economy doesn't sit well with a lot who view the region with suspicious eyes.

Of course we are also hated for smashing the 'traditional' cozy all boys club at the top of English/European football, and in return they have released their journalist hounds on us for the last 10+ years to smear us or implemented flimsy FFP regs, I think that is also clear.

We take the money they think they are entitled to think that's the issue

 

[bluealf]

Not going to link to it but one of the Guardian’s resident sexual deviants, Barry Glendenning - a man who I think once referred to us as ‘scum’ in a podcast - has predictably inserted a dig at City fans into his latest article on Qatar.
As ever, the bare faced hypocrites will be first in the queue when the press tickets and accreditations for the world cup, F1, big boxing events etc are being handed out

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Dick pic Glendinning still being allowed to write for the Guardian afterwards is quite surprising considering the papers love of all things woke.

He is another **** I would happily see City say you're on the banned list son off you trot.

 

[Blue Mist]

Wow, today is apparently a historic day. The BBC news have just told me otherwise I wouldn't have realised. Apparently the rag women are playing for the very first time at the swamp. I wonder if people will look back in years to come and say I will always remember where I was when I heard the news. I know I will.

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

You could blow this agitprop away like you would a dandelion head....




The "plea" to the fans at the end was both clumsy and patronising.

Stop listening at “Abu Dhabi’s ownership of MCFC”.

 

[mat]

Wow, today is apparently a historic day. The BBC news have just told me otherwise I wouldn't have realised. Apparently the rag women are playing for the very first time at the swamp. I wonder if people will look back in years to come and say I will always remember where I was when I heard the news. I know I will.

The coverage is vomit inducing.