Media Thread 2020/21

[mat]

I think social media its reached a point where it causes more harm than benefit. i agree with Terry Henry and his boycott and I think sporting organisations should back it too. There are plenty of properly moderated platforms such as this one for fans to engage with the club. Maybe there is an argument for clubs to run their own mini twitter/facebook like platforms so they can avoid anon postings and make people accountable for what they post. I despise the big platforms, they are making tons of money from the data harvested by ever more sophisticated algorithms but apparenty its too difficult to moderate content. Its bollocks, the internet is the wild west and some form of control is absolutely required.

We might think the anonymity and freedom is sacrosanct but if things carry on as they are, the effect and influence on everything from success or not of brands, to what kind of politics is running the world will become even more corrupt.

i urge everyone to vote with their keyboards and sack off all forms of social media.

This is worth a thread downstairs.

 

[ShedDweller]

The last time I checked, the figures showed that 90 per cent of people in the UK do not even access Twitter let alone publish on it. The main reason toxic content from Twitter gets any significant audience is when it is amplified by the broader media. The real damage to City is not caused by the loons on Twitter but by organisations like the BBC which endorse the fake/racist narrative about us. BBC online, the Guardian, and the Daily Mail, are amongst the biggest media websites in the world in terms of audience and they are incredibly hostile to our club. Freedom of speech should not include the freedom to defame people and fuel hate campaigns. That's why we have laws about things like racism and religious hate.

Thats a good point. The conventional media have become incredibly lazy and it looks like a significant proportion of their output originates in social media. So small seeds get amplified. Rarely fact checked, just fitted to convenient agenda's like the one damaging our club.

 

[supersonicblue]

Nice piece, but the implication that Guardiola replaced Hart when he was at the top of his game doesn’t quite ring true. Pellegrini had already dropped him for a spell in the previous season when his form had dipped and he was having a miserable time with England.

Yeah ik but it was getting a bit long and drawn out. I though Joe’s had enough stick and I didn’t want to be jumping on the media bandwagon

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Yeah ik but it was getting a bit long and drawn out. I though Joe’s had enough stick and I didn’t want to be jumping on the media bandwagon

The sad thing is that the much-maligned Joe Hart is better at distribution than the current England keeper Nick Pope. Not that I would swap Ederson for any other keeper in the world.

 

[LongsightM13]

Used the words proven cheats for the 2014 settlement, said that there were apparently loads of people who thought we didn't tell the truth in the CAS case in 2020, thereby implying our guilt also.

Used the word exonerated and then changed to we were fined, correct term would of been completely exonerated of all charges and fined for not cooperating with UEFA who are already proven fraudsters and cheats right from the top down.

Rob Harris hiding behind Pep did not deny being paid by other sources, no mention of the disgust on Pep's face for the question, then went on to say City still let me in so that adds up to they also confirm what I'm saying is true, proving why the absolute prìck should be banned, City should of taken this stand as soon as the words left his corrupt mouth.

Both of them saying they text and WhatsApp City all the time asking for comments on their made up bullshìt, City not replying to these high forms of communications also implying we are guilty of anything these two prìcks make up. Yes, I am sure Khaldoon deals with of queries via text and WhatsApp.

As for Rob Harris being a little better then Nick, can't agree with that, the whole thing was completely scripted and both took joy in the continuing character assassination of our club, complete and utter pair of cùntz.

As the pair of prìcks seem to be on here quite often, have either of you answered about accepting money from Qatar sources as yet? What no answer? Guilty, then you duplicitous pair of corrupt cūnts.

The flawed logic and self justification in that is staggering. They really are pathetic specimens and an embarrassment to genuine informed journalism. Refusing to even dignify deranged and libellous allegations with a response is not and never has been an admission of guilt.
They know this of course but persist in spreading this juvenile disinformation. At whose behest and to whose benefit would be a more interesting question.
Nick Harris thinks he’s untouchable and can say what he wants without challenge at the minute because his wife died recently, anyone who has a pop at him will simply be accused of trolling him about that

 

[Blue Mist]

Mike Bushell on BBC breakfast sarcastically saying we're crying poverty because Pep said we can't afford the fees being touted for Haaland. That's balanced reporting, right there! We're still constrained by FFP and the pandemic has hit our profits same as all other clubs, so rightly Pep says we can't afford £150m.

Was Bushel in his cheap blue suit he ALWAYS wears despite earning more than someone with talent when he was being sarcastic ?

 

[TheThirdDeano]

God I hate these parasites that live in a little champagne bubbles, writing whatever they want with impunity.

Is there a worse set of cunts than "sports Journalists"?

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

God I hate these parasites that live in a little champagne bubbles, writing whatever they want with impunity.

Is there a worse set of cunts than "sports Journalists"?

Yes BBC employees

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Yes BBC employees

Sorry, I like to forget that the public funded nonce-enablers exist!

 

[jitsubluedan]

Was Bushel in his cheap blue suit he ALWAYS wears despite earning more than someone with talent when he was being sarcastic ?

Would that be the one that doesn’t fit properly?!

The cheapskate!

 

[1961_vintage]

They're both a pair of pricks, as you rightly say but Prick Harris has some sort of excuse in that he has mental health issues. I have my doubts about that story about a brick through his window being true however. I know the club worked closely with a select group of journalists, including him, a few years ago when he was something like Sports Editor at the MoS. This was part of the media strategy to get some of the more reasonable ones onside with the "project". Prick wrote about financial stuff so the club would pass him stuff and we'd exchange views and information.

Wow that is incredible and well done you mate for maintaining your professional dignity and self-respect in the face of that kind of behaviour.

Quite frankly I am tired of our limp-wristed, reactive strategy to this sustained anti-Manchester City media narrative and campaign, a strategy that encourages them to say/write what they like with fuck-all by the way of veracity and with absolutely zero accountability.

We should be on the front-foot and aggressively hunting these twats out of existence using whatever means necessary to do so.

 

[jrb]

There's no end to the 'billionaire' narrative.

Even after 8 years of complying with UEFA and PL rules, and the club being self-sustainable.

Jeremy Cross, you clueless, click-bait, (cheif sports writer) c*nt!

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Wow that is incredible and well done you mate for maintaining your professional dignity and self-respect in the face of that kind of behaviour.

Quite frankly I am tired of our limp-wristed, reactive strategy to this sustained anti-Manchester City media narrative and campaign, a strategy that encourages them to say/write what they like with fuck-all by the way of veracity and with absolutely zero accountability.

We should be on the front-foot and aggressively hunting these twats out of existence using whatever means necessary to do so.

The club can’t do anything;
Ban them and they hit us with the state funded propeganda machine attacking Britain’s brave press.
Argue back, they ignore it and don’t print it.

it’s the fans that have to fight

 

[1961_vintage]

The club can’t do anything;
Ban them and they hit us with the state funded propeganda machine attacking Britain’s brave press.
Argue back, they ignore it and don’t print it.

it’s the fans that have to fight

Sorry mate - disagree totally. For me it's not about Harris, Conn, Delooney or some other talentless no-mark - it's about those who fund them and provide them with a vehicle to communicate their toxic and corrosive bullshit on to the mass population. To make a difference you follow the money and get in at the very top. It's all they care about. For example we should be using our extensive corporate and commercial power and influence to disrupt their revenue and advertising streams. Only when they see a cause-and-effect relationship between the financial consequences of attacking City will things change. Until then, fans are just pissing in the wind, increasing the very means on which these trolls are paid - ie clicks and hits.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

There's no end to the 'billionaire' narrative.

Even after 8 years of complying with UEFA and PL rules, and the club being self-sustainable.

Jeremy Cross, you clueless, click-bait, (cheif sports writer) c*nt!

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We would have to go into debt to buy Haaland, and that isn't our business model. We should be applauded for that, but not a f*cking chance with the parasites.

They'd no doubt be praising the Rag's or Dipper's they bought him (going into MORE debt in doing so) because it 'shows ambition'.

Remind me: Who's ruining football?

 

[laserblue]

I complained to Tim Davie in October about Silly Sally.

"Dear Mr Davie

In view of your clearly stated policy to end the activities of opinionated columnists and partisan campaigners employed by the BBC I think you may be interested in the link below.

In view of Sally Nugent's uber saturation coverage of Marcus Rashford's campaign (in itself very worthy) complete with countless puff piece interviews with him and the revelation that she has links with Rashford's PR guru (or 'Director of Brand Strategy') Kelly Hogarth I would be very disappointed if she were not taken to task for this clear breach of the policy you have introduced.

Kind regards

Rashford's BBC Publicist"

I received a reply advising that he's unable to respond personally to all communications and that my email had been passed to some minion. Here is that minion's reply.

"Reference CAS-6381521-L3N4R0

Dear

Thank you for contacting the BBC about our coverage of Marcus Rashford.

Since it began earlier this year, BBC News has reported on significant developments in Marcus Rashford’s campaign on child food poverty, reflecting the social, political and economic implications.

We have also looked at the personal story that lies behind Marcus Rashford’s campaign and the way he has used his profile as a footballer to raise issues of child poverty. This has drawn praise from those at the top of Government and from across the political spectrum and led to him recently being awarded an MBE.

Sally Nugent has a long history of reporting on sports news stories for the BBC and has conducted interviews with Marcus Rashford in this capacity.

Additionally Sally has reflected on all sides of the debate including interviewing experts on poverty as well as politicians from all sides, most recently questioning Labour’s support for free school meals live on BBC Breakfast.

Our news presenters often use their social media accounts to post clips from their programmes or to further discuss stories they cover, and we wouldn’t agree that this amounts to over-exposure of this story.

Sally has no affiliation with Marcus’ PR team, beyond what is needed for her to perform her journalistic duties or to maintain points of contact.

We are confident our reporting has been duly impartial and accurate, as required by our Editorial Guidelines.

Thank you once again for writing in and we have shared your concerns with the team at BBC Breakfast.

Kind regards,

Phil Young

BBC Complaints Team"


So contacting Tim Davie is unlikely to be read by, let alone replied to, by the man himself.

 

[jrb]

Did Talk Shite drag Cascarino(Pundit?) off the street with a promise of a hot drink and a sandwich?

 

[Blueknows]

Nice piece, but the implication that Guardiola replaced Hart when he was at the top of his game doesn’t quite ring true. Pellegrini had already dropped him for a spell in the previous season when his form had dipped and he was having a miserable time with England.

Peps main reason for replacing Hart was due to him refusing to adapt into the way he wanted him to play out from the back , along with Harts attitude

 

[Bill]

The club can’t do anything;
Ban them and they hit us with the state funded propeganda machine attacking Britain’s brave press.
Argue back, they ignore it and don’t print it.

it’s the fans that have to fight

bollocks. we could and should ban them, sue them or worse if our owners are as bad as the Media make out have them "disappear"

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I complained to Tim Davie in October about Silly Sally.

"Dear Mr Davie

In view of your clearly stated policy to end the activities of opinionated columnists and partisan campaigners employed by the BBC I think you may be interested in the link below.

In view of Sally Nugent's uber saturation coverage of Marcus Rashford's campaign (in itself very worthy) complete with countless puff piece interviews with him and the revelation that she has links with Rashford's PR guru (or 'Director of Brand Strategy') Kelly Hogarth I would be very disappointed if she were not taken to task for this clear breach of the policy you have introduced.

Kind regards

Rashford's BBC Publicist"

I received a reply advising that he's unable to respond personally to all communications and that my email had been passed to some minion. Here is that minion's reply.

"Reference CAS-6381521-L3N4R0

Dear

Thank you for contacting the BBC about our coverage of Marcus Rashford.

Since it began earlier this year, BBC News has reported on significant developments in Marcus Rashford’s campaign on child food poverty, reflecting the social, political and economic implications.

We have also looked at the personal story that lies behind Marcus Rashford’s campaign and the way he has used his profile as a footballer to raise issues of child poverty. This has drawn praise from those at the top of Government and from across the political spectrum and led to him recently being awarded an MBE.

Sally Nugent has a long history of reporting on sports news stories for the BBC and has conducted interviews with Marcus Rashford in this capacity.

Additionally Sally has reflected on all sides of the debate including interviewing experts on poverty as well as politicians from all sides, most recently questioning Labour’s support for free school meals live on BBC Breakfast.

Our news presenters often use their social media accounts to post clips from their programmes or to further discuss stories they cover, and we wouldn’t agree that this amounts to over-exposure of this story.

Sally has no affiliation with Marcus’ PR team, beyond what is needed for her to perform her journalistic duties or to maintain points of contact.

We are confident our reporting has been duly impartial and accurate, as required by our Editorial Guidelines.

Thank you once again for writing in and we have shared your concerns with the team at BBC Breakfast.

Kind regards,

Phil Young

BBC Complaints Team"


So contacting Tim Davie is unlikely to be read by, let alone replied to, by the man himself.

And you were expecting what exactly ?

All the cunts who work for the BBC are immune from such criticism . It's in their contracts .