Media Thread - 2021/22

[Newman Noggs]

It has always been the case that 95 per cent plus of football trainees don't make the top grade but the welfare and support these days is better than it ever was in the past (no doubt could still be improved). If the English Academy system is such a failure (as the headline states) why is it that England now has most of the best young players in world football and the strongest pyramid system of leagues in the world. The headline is just untrue.
I read the article and most of it is perfectly legitimate. I don't have any problems with focusing on tragedy and youth suicides. It is an important issue. But the article doesn't tell the whole story, it is unbalanced and ignores the wider context. There is no mention of the vast numbers of former youth players who don't make the elite grade but still make a good living from sport. It is not balanced journalism so it has little validity. Like so much distorted content in the mainstream media it is just propaganda.

When I see these stories regurgitated, I always wonder how many aspiring youngsters in other walks of life suffer similar extreme consequences of failure. The obvious example is acting. How many young actors have sunk into depression, drugs and suicide as their high hopes haven't materialised ? I don't see that football clubs are under any higher moral obligation to support failed footballers than any other industry, and City, of all clubs, do more than most to provide an education to fall back on.

 

[bluealf]

Cancelled my Athletic sub after that article

Shame as I really like Sam Lee’s writing on City.

Really?

He is a snide and not particularly subtle about it, I wouldn't even wipe my arse on a printed article he has written, as it would make it useful at least.

 

[Beswick Prize Band]

The Manchester is BLUE show (@manchesterisB) Tweeted:
“I know it’s uncomfortable for elite clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal... but we deserve to be here.” https://t.co/h8QETR1f9y

Like is not enough

 

[bluealf]

When I see these stories regurgitated, I always wonder how many aspiring youngsters in other walks of life suffer similar extreme consequences of failure. The obvious example is acting. How many young actors have sunk into depression, drugs and suicide as their high hopes haven't materialised ? I don't see that football clubs are under any higher moral obligation to support failed footballers than any other industry, and City, of all clubs, do more than most to provide an education to fall back on.

Also, how many of these types suffered the casting couch to get their first break?

Which also won't help with the second part of your sentence, especially if nothing comes from the first part.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Athletic attack us again.

What's their Problem with us ?

what they say

 

[Del_Bosque]

Really?

He is a snide and not particularly subtle about it, I wouldn't even wipe my arse on a printed article he has written, as it would make it useful at least.

See I just don’t see that really.

It’s not partisan not up our arse like MEN or some of the drivel you see about Liverpool or United granted but very rarely if ever slags us off?

and it’s not pseud bullshit like Winter or Ronay.

Think he gives a pretty good insight with tactics and squad balance, things like that.

Will just stick to podcasts if I want to hear from him though, Athletic aren’t getting a penny off me from now on.

 

[cheekybids]

See I just don’t see that really.

It’s not partisan not up our arse like MEN or some of the drivel you see about Liverpool or United granted but very rarely if ever slags us off?

and it’s not pseud bullshit like Winter or Ronay.

Think he gives a pretty good insight with tactics and squad balance, things like that.

Will just stick to podcasts if I want to hear from him though, Athletic aren’t getting a penny off me from now on.

So for all his articles that we were getting banned for cheating, where are his articles to say why we were wronged. We knew we would be cleared from good investigative accounting & law from PB & & others & still 2 years later nothing. He’s a snide fcker & to me worse than the others for cosying up.

 

[mcfcstu]

I watched the first half of the Liverpool game last night and was amused to hear the ultra-positive commentary. Absolutely gushing. Very different to the stuff I used to listen to when watching a City game.

Not sure who the 2 English commentators were on the City game I streamed on Tuesday night but the comment from one of them at the end of the game "fingers crossed we all hope sporting can turn this result round at the etihad" just about summed up BT sports.

 

[Kompany Car]

Not sure who the 2 English commentators were on the City game I streamed on Tuesday night but the comment from one of them at the end of the game "fingers crossed we all hope sporting can turn this result round at the etihad" just about summed up BT sports.

If was BT it would have been Darke and the missing link Keown.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Of course a country mile is different! ;-) A City mile is 5 times better!! ;-)



But in all seriousness a country mile was coined after a map maker called Henry Joist in 1651 made a mistake when he calibrated his instruments when he was in Essex. The term was originally an Essex mile.

I’m going to get matron to give me my medication now. Sorry. :-) ;-)

Sounds like he was mapping the metrolink.

 

[bluealf]

See I just don’t see that really.

It’s not partisan not up our arse like MEN or some of the drivel you see about Liverpool or United granted but very rarely if ever slags us off?

and it’s not pseud bullshit like Winter or Ronay.

Think he gives a pretty good insight with tactics and squad balance, things like that.

Will just stick to podcasts if I want to hear from him though, Athletic aren’t getting a penny off me from now on.

Maybe he is different than when on twitter, awful on there.

 

[I'm Blue]

We must have had a good win this week cos I’m seeing a lot of articles with regards Pep being a chequebook manager and him being a failure if he doesn’t win the champions league.
They’re all hurting and very very bitter lol

 

[KS55]

We must have had a good win this week cos I’m seeing a lot of articles with regards Pep being a chequebook manager and him being a failure if he doesn’t win the champions league.
They’re all hurting and very very bitter lol

Just point out that Pep doesn't have access to the cheque book. Ultimately, he gets the players he is given by Tkixi. (See Sanchez.)

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

When I see these stories regurgitated, I always wonder how many aspiring youngsters in other walks of life suffer similar extreme consequences of failure. The obvious example is acting. How many young actors have sunk into depression, drugs and suicide as their high hopes haven't materialised ? I don't see that football clubs are under any higher moral obligation to support failed footballers than any other industry, and City, of all clubs, do more than most to provide an education to fall back on.

After spending his secondary education in the school used by all United academy students Marcus Rashford states that he never read a book until he was 17.
In my eyes both the school and the rags have failed him for allowing such a situation to arise. The school should have informed both the rags and his parents of his poor performance.
I am sure that City's boys do not leave school without a good education yet as usual it is City getting the sly digs and the pictures of the Academy stadium.

 

[give it to gordon]

After spending his secondary education in the school used by all United academy students Marcus Rashford states that he never read a book until he was 17.
In my eyes both the school and the rags have failed him for allowing such a situation to arise. The school should have informed both the rags and his parents of his poor performance.
I am sure that City's boys do not leave school without a good education yet as usual it is City getting the sly digs and the pictures of the Academy stadium.

This 100%

Why arent the school and utd being called out over their poor education standards. Plus not making sure their academy kids were eating properly.

The richest club in the world

This is according to the press/media the most successful academy in the world. Yet it failed to make sure their academy kids were fed and educated. This is a scandal.

 

[Spanishbob]

When I see these stories regurgitated, I always wonder how many aspiring youngsters in other walks of life suffer similar extreme consequences of failure. The obvious example is acting. How many young actors have sunk into depression, drugs and suicide as their high hopes haven't materialised ? I don't see that football clubs are under any higher moral obligation to support failed footballers than any other industry, and City, of all clubs, do more than most to provide an education to fall back on.

Don’t they send the young trainees to st bedes college? It’s a very good school that my mate sent his youngsters to.

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

Just point out that Pep doesn't have access to the cheque book. Ultimately, he gets the players he is given by Tkixi. (See Sanchez.)

I accept what Pep says when he claims he does not to get involved in the actual negotiations, but surely he must have a say in deciding if a player fits into his plans?
Perhaps Tkixi is acquiring players for the future - post Pep. Although Tkixi has ultimate responsibilty, I just can't imagine City buying any player if Pep isn't happy.

 

[Bozzie]

SPECIAL REPORT: The failings of Premier League football factories

SPECIAL REPORT - IAN HERBERT: The Premier League is undertaking a review of its academy system, 10 years after it was set up. But it is aftercare which has become the priority issue.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Despite it being a serious matter not just in UK but probably world wide, why is it like I am reading another article about City?

Hasn't Herbert/Daily Mail published this 'Special Report' previously which makes the timing a tad suspect. It's one of those subjects that is very difficult to discuss openly and dispassionately because of the devastating loss Jeremy Wisten's family have suffered. The one organisation that doesn't appear to get a mention is the PFA who, as the players union, should surely be heavily invested in this.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

This 100%

Why arent the school and utd being called out over their poor education standards. Plus not making sure their academy kids were eating properly.

The richest club in the world

This is according to the press/media the most successful academy in the world. Yet it failed to make sure their academy kids were fed and educated. This is a scandal.

About 2 years ago when the Rashford gravy train was just starting they were all making a big deal of Mrs Rashford demanding that her son went to the Academy. She was praised for foing this as at 11 he was the youngest lad to get in
Unfortunately it did not suit the narrative of young Marcus going hungry. In fact he was being well fed like all the other lads in his digs and at school getting the high quality Trafford MBC meals.
So the story was changed to suit.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

Don’t they send the young trainees to st bedes college? It’s a very good school that my mate sent his youngsters to.

My mate pays for his kids to go to St Bedes because of its reputation.
He is a devout Muslim and his kids are both girls and he is delighted.