Media thread 2022/23

[Jesus H Gabz]

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The fuck is this bellend?

Think he’s a Daily Mail Russian bot who normally trolls the comments section & fancies a bit of Bluemoon

 

[dickie davies]

Is XG the stupidest stat ever. How can a team score three goals and the other score one and then the team who score one have a better XG. what a load of nonsense.

xG is bollocks
A penalty, which must be one of largest opportunities to score, isn't counted as a full point
It's calculated by % of all the penalties ever recorded that have been scored
So if that is 4 in 5 (80%) then xG recorded Haalands pen yesterday as 0.8 of a chance
And to think , some people have studied every shot /goal to record these stats for xG

If you put Erling Haaland on a 1v1 with the keeper and Raheem Sterling in the same situation, who would you put your money on scoring!
Surely whoever the chance falls to makes a huge difference in expectation of if a goal is scored or not

 

[lonestay]

XG is just another Americanisation of football , Any sport in North America is always judged on stats, it gives the commentators something to talk about and discuss, and make them feel they are giving incisive information it's all bollox. Any genuine football fan watching the City game yesterday could see that City wanted to kill the game early and then rest players, and that's what they did.
Leicester would always have more chances and more of the ball after this point, and this is where this XG bollox comes in because you can always use statistics and percentages to then make a game look more balanced and "closer" A football fan using their eyes and not statistics would see the true game .

 

[Benjani56]

xG is bollocks
A penalty, which must be one of largest opportunities to score, isn't counted as a full point
It's calculated by % of all the penalties ever recorded that have been scored
So if that is 4 in 5 (80%) then xG recorded Haalands pen yesterday as 0.8 of a chance
And to think , some people have studied every shot /goal to record these stats for xG

If you put Erling Haaland on a 1v1 with the keeper and Raheem Sterling in the same situation, who would you put your money on scoring!
Surely whoever the chance falls to makes a huge difference in expectation of if a goal is scored or not

You've actually managed to outline one of the main benefits of xG

In the Premier League this season:
Haaland 32 goals from 22.8 xG
Sterling 4 goals from 6.14 xG

Haaland is outperforming his xG whereas Sterling isn't. Clearly shows us Haaland is a better finisher than Sterling

Also a penalty being counted as a full point doesn't make sense as that implies all penalties are scored

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

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The fuck is this bellend?

Brilliant , made me chuckle.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

I’m convinced Erling will make it his lifetimes mission to convince Mr potato head that his penalties hit the back of the net more convincingly

Defo more Voldemort than Mr Potato Head mate.............

 

[Benjani56]

Is XG the stupidest stat ever. How can a team score three goals and the other score one and then the team who score one have a better XG. what a load of nonsense.

Because the chances they had were more likely to be scored by an average player

For instance, the Stones goal would have been very low xG and when Kelechi hit the post that would have been quite high xG

What xG doesn't reflect is that City took their foot off the gas after 3 nil deliberately. All stats are flawed in some way, just need to be used as part of a wider context

 

[madloaf]

You've actually managed to outline one of the main benefits of xG

In the Premier League this season:
Haaland 32 goals from 22.8 xG
Sterling 4 goals from 6.14 xG

Haaland is outperforming his xG whereas Sterling isn't. Clearly shows us Haaland is a better finisher than Sterling

Also a penalty being counted as a full point doesn't make sense as that implies all penalties are scored

Or that the goalkeepers faced on those occasions with sterling out performed their expected saves (xS?). It assumes all things are equal and that scoring in minute 1 is the same as minute 90 in a game where the result matters or a meaningless game on a rainy day or a sunny day at 2-0 or 0-7. That's why it's complete codswallop.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Or that the goalkeepers faced on those occasions with sterling out performed their expected saves (xS?). It assumes all things are equal and that scoring in minute 1 is the same as minute 90 in a game where the result matters or a meaningless game on a rainy day or a sunny day at 2-0 or 0-7. That's why it's complete codswallop.

And that's why it appeals to this generation.

 

[dickie davies]

You've actually managed to outline one of the main benefits of xG

In the Premier League this season:
Haaland 32 goals from 22.8 xG
Sterling 4 goals from 6.14 xG

Haaland is outperforming his xG whereas Sterling isn't. Clearly shows us Haaland is a better finisher than Sterling

Also a penalty being counted as a full point doesn't make sense as that implies all penalties are scored

xG IMO represents expected goals
I'd expect Haaland to score a penalty, especially when his record for us is 100%
Haaland isn't outperforming his xG at all as he is the deadliest striker on the planet
And we certainly do not need xG to tell us Sterling should be scoring more goals. Even my shitty eyesight can see that miles away