Message from a Sunderland fan

WestGorton said:
In a nutshell.
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Correct, it's the amount of money needed now that's changed, United, Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool always had owners able to pump money in when it was needed, dont forget United went 26 years without winning the league but were still commercially the biggest club in England. TV money and global investment increased drastically after the Premier League began and United managed this better by selling the brand globally than the likes of Liverpool who just expected to continue the success of the seventies and eighties and lost out big time. The fact is money matters but its how you use your money that's more important ! United spend just as much as us but have no plan un place, sack managers give the next one millions and so on. Every fan of every team would love our owners but sadly it's not jealousy at the top table of UEFA that's the problem is racially based as we have Arab owners who they despise !
 
How easy is it to get a ticket for a Derby match? At the age now whereby I fancy going to some high profile matches elsewhere.
 
wtdog said:
How easy is it to get a ticket for a Derby match? At the age now whereby I fancy going to some high profile matches elsewhere.
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Unfortunately, for non-members, they are like gold dust, and even if you’re a member, you have to build up loyalty points to have any chance of obtaining one.
 
BringBackSwales said:
To any Sunderland fans that come in here, lovely to see Jermaine Defoe on the ITV panel tonight. I will never forget the friendship and all round brilliance that man showed to young Bradley Lowery at Sunderland. Absolutely smashing bloke, and a lovely young Mackem taken away too soon. RIP Bradley.
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Yep, you can't help but feel sometimes that players are just going through the motions when they do those kind of things, but it was very clear that that wasn't the case, Defoe did what I guess we would all do in that situation, nothing but respect from me for him as a player and a person.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
Yep, you can't help but feel sometimes that players are just going through the motions when they do those kind of things, but it was very clear that that wasn't the case, Defoe did what I guess we would all do in that situation, nothing but respect from me for him as a player and a person.
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I think he went above and beyond what the average person would do. Regularly visited him at home and in hospital, still goes and sees Bradley’s parents, proper bloke
 
I always used to hate Sunderland. This was a reaction to travelling there on a New Year’s Eve trip and been thrown out of pubs at just after half past ten.

It was, evidently all my fault.

Since then I have learned get along with Sunderland supporters. After the League Cup Final win, I have become rather sympathetic to Sunderland and their supporters.

I now have the ultimate respect for Sunderland all who support them. But are they still competitive?
 
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Jacko1956 said:
Correct, it's the amount of money needed now that's changed, United, Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool always had owners able to pump money in when it was needed, dont forget United went 26 years without winning the league but were still commercially the biggest club in England. TV money and global investment increased drastically after the Premier League began and United managed this better by selling the brand globally than the likes of Liverpool who just expected to continue the success of the seventies and eighties and lost out big time. The fact is money matters but its how you use your money that's more important ! United spend just as much as us but have no plan un place, sack managers give the next one millions and so on. Every fan of every team would love our owners but sadly it's not jealousy at the top table of UEFA that's the problem is racially based as we have Arab owners who they despise !
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I believe in follow the money, especially where Uefa are concerned. I'd say rather than something intangible as racism i suggest it may be down the the islamic feeling with regards to gambling and how that might affect the coffers.
 
I really feel for Sunderland fans right now with all this noise on the Tyne, and hope they can finally get out of the 3rd Division. Always had utmost respect for Sunderland fans and soft spot for their club. The 14,000 plus who came to Maine Road on the last day of 90-91 were brilliant in the match and after they had been relegated. They were so noisy that day and their backing of their team was 2nd to none. Loved it that they did The Poznan on May 13th 2012. That respect was only enhanced by how sporting every one of them that I met at Wembley after the League Cup Final.
 
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Zabbasbeard said:
I really feel for Sunderland fans tight now with all this noise on the Tyne, and hope they can finally get out of the 3rd Division. Always had utmost respect for Sunderland fans and soft spot for their club. The 14,000 plus who came to Maine Road on the last day of 90-91 were brilliant in the match and after they had been relegated. They were so noisy that day and their backing of their team was 2nd to none. Loved it that they did The Poznan on May 13th 2012. That respect was only enhanced by how sporting every one of them that I met at Wembley after the League Cup Final.
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Amen to all that
 
Zabbasbeard said:
I really feel for Sunderland fans tight now with all this noise on the Tyne, and hope they can finally get out of the 3rd Division. Always had utmost respect for Sunderland fans and soft spot for their club. The 14,000 plus who came to Maine Road on the last day of 90-91 were brilliant in the match and after they had been relegated. They were so noisy that day and their backing of their team was 2nd to none. Loved it that they did The Poznan on May 13th 2012. That respect was only enhanced by how sporting every one of them that I met at Wembley after the League Cup Final.
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Echo that. Spent a happy hour drinking outside the Euston Tap in 2014 after the Cup final, a credit to their team and city.

They'll be back.
 
A message to all Mackems. Don't be too concerned about the Toon takeover. They're stuck with the same squad until January, by which time they could be adrift at the bottom. Buying quality players in the Jan window is always difficult but even more so if they're in the relegation zone. Sunderland could be playing them in the championship next season - now wouldn't that be funny ?
 
BillCarlisle said:
A message to all Mackems. Don't be too concerned about the Toon takeover. They're stuck with the same squad until January, by which time they could be adrift at the bottom. Buying quality players in the Jan window is always difficult but even more so if they're in the relegation zone. Sunderland could be playing them in the championship next season - now wouldn't that be funny ?
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Great post. Careful what you wish for.....as much as it's a win/win for Steve Bruce, the erstwhile Brown Ale brigade should take their time wishing him and celebrating Mike Ashley gone. Think Leeds United!!!
Bruce has kept Newcastle in the Premier League despite everything. Let's face it, they ain't winning nowt this year, so staying up would be a decent start, methinks.
 
Personally I think Nufc fans are missing several things.
It is an investment fund to cover lack of income tax in Saudi. It is not an act of benevolence by them. They want money out too.
The 330bn is not all for football, it is for everything in the investment portfolio.
Petrol and oil is getting phased out so income will have to be maximised in other areas for the Saudi fund.
Nufc fans hated Ashley and used zero hour contracts as a stick to heat him with; they are seemingly fine with human rights violations, terrorist funding and deaths though.
Many people will hate them now too, not jealously but because they have sold out to the Saudis who are hated world wide.
Players will still want to go to Liverpool, two Manc teams and London.
Without a plan and good staff it will not work. Chucking money must be chucked correctly. Amanda Stavely is not a foitball person. She is famous for working at a theme park ,shagging Prince Andrew and having one eye out for the shopping and the other halfway back with the change.
They won't win the league in my lifetime.
 
wtdog said:
Personally I think Nufc fans are missing several things.
It is an investment fund to cover lack of income tax in Saudi. It is not an act of benevolence by them. They want money out too.
The 330bn is not all for football, it is for everything in the investment portfolio.
Petrol and oil is getting phased out so income will have to be maximised in other areas for the Saudi fund.
Nufc fans hated Ashley and used zero hour contracts as a stick to heat him with; they are seemingly fine with human rights violations, terrorist funding and deaths though.
Many people will hate them now too, not jealously but because they have sold out to the Saudis who are hated world wide.
Players will still want to go to Liverpool, two Manc teams and London.
Without a plan and good staff it will not work. Chucking money must be chucked correctly. Amanda Stavely is not a foitball person. She is famous for working at a theme park ,shagging Prince Andrew and having one eye out for the shopping and the other halfway back with the change.
They won't win the league in my lifetime.
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Who's the other?
 
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