Micah Richards must stay

[allan harper]

This club is moving forward at warp speed if players carnt keep up, then forget being sentimental its time for them to move on.

Fuck all to do with sentimentality. The lad has potential and he proved this with some superb performances under Pearce and Sven

How far has the club moved forward since them days and far has richards progressed in that time. The club is fast tracking its way to the very top, if the like carnt (and he hasn't) see that then its time for them to make way for better players.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Fuck all to do with sentimentality. The lad has potential and he proved this with some superb performances under Pearce and Sven

How far has the club moved forward since them days and far has richards progressed in that time. The club is fast tracking its way to the very top, if the like carnt (and he hasn't) see that then its time for them to make way for better players.

The club's gone a long way forward and Micah has gone backwards, but his potential still remains. I don't think it's time for him to make way just yet but there's no doubt he needs to buck up fast

 

[ono]

He's very average imo. Know a lot of people who played with him at Junior Level at Farsely Celtic when we was around 13 (i think) and back then he was average, but he was much bigger and faster than everyone else in the team so he got noticed. His footballing ability was pretty average, much like it is today. Problem is, he longer has the physical advantages at senior level as opponents know how to play against it, and they higher we go (Champions League) the more obvious this will become.


Whether or not he can be moulded into a good player is a different matter. He might have enough to work with and be successful at a top club, but the chances are, he won't imo. When all is said and done, he doesn't have much footballing ability to fall back on. However, i do understand that great teams are rarely made up of 11 great footballers, so maybe Bobby will see enough in him to try and turn him into a top player.

Without trying to sound too harsh, Micah Richards is a by-product of a scouting system that consistently fails the 'footballers' out there. Same can be applied for plenty of players in and around the England set-up. Then every 2 years we wonder why England fail so miserably on the world stage.

 

[blueinsa]

He's very average imo. Know a lot of people who played with him at Junior Level at Farsely Celtic when we was around 13 (i think) and back then he was average, but he was much bigger and faster than everyone else in the team so he got noticed. His footballing ability was pretty average, much like it is today. Problem is, he longer has the physical advantages at senior level as opponents know how to play against it, and they higher we go (Champions League) the more obvious this will become.


Whether or not he can be moulded into a good player is a different matter. He might have enough to work with and be successful at a top club, but the chances are, he won't imo. When all is said and done, he doesn't have much footballing ability to fall back on. However, i do understand that great teams are rarely made up of 11 great footballers, so maybe Bobby will see enough in him to try and turn him into a top player.

Without trying to sound too harsh, Micah Richards is a by-product of a scouting system that consistently fails the 'footballers' out there. Same can be applied for plenty of players in and around the England set-up. Then every 2 years we wonder why England fail so miserably on the world stage.

One of the best posts on here in a long time mate.

 

[MadchesterCity]

He's very average imo. Know a lot of people who played with him at Junior Level at Farsely Celtic when we was around 13 (i think) and back then he was average, but he was much bigger and faster than everyone else in the team so he got noticed. His footballing ability was pretty average, much like it is today. Problem is, he longer has the physical advantages at senior level as opponents know how to play against it, and they higher we go (Champions League) the more obvious this will become.


Whether or not he can be moulded into a good player is a different matter. He might have enough to work with and be successful at a top club, but the chances are, he won't imo. When all is said and done, he doesn't have much footballing ability to fall back on. However, i do understand that great teams are rarely made up of 11 great footballers, so maybe Bobby will see enough in him to try and turn him into a top player.

Without trying to sound too harsh, Micah Richards is a by-product of a scouting system that consistently fails the 'footballers' out there. Same can be applied for plenty of players in and around the England set-up. Then every 2 years we wonder why England fail so miserably on the world stage.

One of the best posts on here in a long time mate.

 

[Johnny_on]

He's very average imo. Know a lot of people who played with him at Junior Level at Farsely Celtic when we was around 13 (i think) and back then he was average, but he was much bigger and faster than everyone else in the team so he got noticed. His footballing ability was pretty average, much like it is today. Problem is, he longer has the physical advantages at senior level as opponents know how to play against it, and they higher we go (Champions League) the more obvious this will become.


Whether or not he can be moulded into a good player is a different matter. He might have enough to work with and be successful at a top club, but the chances are, he won't imo. When all is said and done, he doesn't have much footballing ability to fall back on. However, i do understand that great teams are rarely made up of 11 great footballers, so maybe Bobby will see enough in him to try and turn him into a top player.

Without trying to sound too harsh, Micah Richards is a by-product of a scouting system that consistently fails the 'footballers' out there. Same can be applied for plenty of players in and around the England set-up. Then every 2 years we wonder why England fail so miserably on the world stage.

This is why to me he's a CB. He was never going to be a footballing defender, from day one you can see that, but its better to have one of each at CB anyway. In England like or not you are going to need a strong CB or you are going to get bullied at Bolton, Stoke, blackburn etc. Arsenals 'footballing' CB's are proof of that.

Englands problem's are something else and if SWP made it through it dis-proves your theory as he is tiny and has made it to the highest level. Your post makes it sound like there is a Xavi and Iniesta doing kick ups in a field on their own, because scouts told them they were too small or slow.

Not true, if those players were English they would have made it through the ranks, just like Joe Cole did and Wilshire is now.

 

[Bluestones]

I would only keep Richards if we are short of car park attendants.

 

[ribbo]

its hard enough getting out of the carparks already, without that clown cocking that up aswell

 

[PistonBlue]

None of these players deficiencies are terminal. All if given the right situation can perform for a full season. At the moment they don't seem to adapt when they are asked to move positions or be out of their comfort zone. Which may come from being trained at the same club for the last 15 years of their lives.

This can just take time and can be sorted. Why did Ireland have such a good year season before last? He was put in his perfect position and struck up a passing partnership with Robinho. Two like minded footballing brains, they were telepathic at times....then.....Robinho gets dropped and Ireland's asked to move position and it doesn't work. It doesn't make him a bad player. I could easily see Ireland and Silva having a similar thing.

Same with Richards, was amazing at times at CB when Sven was here. 1-0 Derby anyone?? Moved to rightback moved back to CB, back to rightback, we just don't help them out.

All of these players will go to another club and there will be thread after thread on this board of people saying 'why the hell did we sell him'.

Richards and Ireland for sure and probably SWP and Onouha are good enough to be part of a title winning squad.

I think sentiment is clouding your judgement tbh. These players don't adapt as you say, because of their own limitations. Richards for instance is a superb athlete, big, strong and quick - ideal as you say for centre half. He just cannot 'read' the game though. Watch how slow he is to react mentally to a situation, it takes him an age to change direction.

Ireland, again has ability but unfortunately he seems to have mental issues. He's not cut out for it. One excellent season in five is proof of that.

Swp, struggled to find form last year, but of the three I'd be more inclined to keep him if only for his influence coming off the bench.

And I'm sorry but if you think these three plus Ned are good enough for a title winning squad then I think you're mistaken. Ask yourself would any of these players get into the current Chelsea squad?

 

[The Future is Blue]

Like the earlier poster says he is a by-product of poor scouting where being an athlete sems to outweigh any footballing ability. Being big and strong is a great asset when combined with skill ( like Viera was in his prime ) but surely it's better to have players who have good ability and improve their fitness rather than athletes and try to somehow find some skill that's not natural to them. Otherwise why don't we just go and sign the first 10 finishers in the olympics 100m finals and try and teach them how to pass and shoot!
Can't wait to Usain Bolt in a blue shirt!