Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

2sheikhs said:
Didn't stuart hall deny everything until the last minute?
There must be a vast difference in being found guilty and pleading guilty regarding sentencing.

I think its down to their morals or serious lack of them. I don't remember ever reading about one of these cases where someone ( famous or not) pleads guilty. They think they have done nothing wrong and don't seem to think they will be found guilty right up until the last minute. This for me is a bad thing to stomach as it puts more pain and worry on the victim. You have to remember that tp do the things he has "allegedy" done he is not normal at all so he won't do the decent thing and own up.
 
The cookie monster said:
I'm suprised some of these post haven't been removed
The alleged victims identity as has good as been revealed.

True... hence my 'edit' to last post.
 
Bigga said:
One thing that people forget is that the CPS wouldn't take the chance on pressing forward without SOME kind of convincing evidence, to their own end.

Surely there are 'distinguishing marks' that this female remembers about the man, that would not be ordinarily seen by the public...??
Origianly they were not going to press charges but 3 months later fresh allegations were made
 
markyboyblue said:
2sheikhs said:
Didn't stuart hall deny everything until the last minute?
There must be a vast difference in being found guilty and pleading guilty regarding sentencing.

I think its down to their morals or serious lack of them. I don't remember ever reading about one of these cases where someone ( famous or not) pleads guilty. They think they have done nothing wrong and don't seem to think they will be found guilty right up until the last minute. This for me is a bad thing to stomach as it puts more pain and worry on the victim. You have to remember that tp do the things he has "allegedy" done he is not normal at all so he won't do the decent thing and own up.
I think its down to vast difference in the sentencing guidelines between someone who pleads guilty and is found guilty. Thing here is even he if now pleads, he's made the victim go to court and go through the awful experience if reliving it, which is what the incentive in sentencing credits is meant to achieve. So he's fucked in terms of that anyway now, so he wouldnt change his plea anyway
 
"Rooosie, your fish fingers are on the table"
It's little wonder the poor kid always looked petrified at tea time.
 
markyboyblue said:
. This for me is a bad thing to stomach as it puts more pain and worry on the victim. You have to remember that tp do the things he has "allegedy" done he is not normal at all so he won't do the decent thing and own up.

Own up ???

Like women who falsely cry rape do , you mean ??

I don't know whether Michael Turner(Le Vell) is guilty or not , but if he really hasn't done it why should he plead guilty ????
 
pominoz said:
mcmanus said:
CTID1988 said:
Jury's are daft. Surely a judge with years of experience is more than able to make a judgement? Or instead of a jury get a load of judges. Something doesn't sit right about a load of corrie fans say there thinking they are looking at Kevin Webster

12 judges on a jury. Each one on about £300 an hour plus expenses. Madness.

Tell me you are joking!
We get 40 dollars a day here for the first 6 days and 80 a day there after.


Judges wouldn't answer a telephone for the daily amount £65 you can claim on jury duty. Oh if you ever want get out of it just tell the authorities you absolutely have never had faith in or a believe anything a police officer says and so will just always vote not guilty.

Back on topic I think Le Vell comes from his mam's maiden name.
 
mcmanus said:
pominoz said:
mcmanus said:
12 judges on a jury. Each one on about £300 an hour plus expenses. Madness.

Tell me you are joking!
We get 40 dollars a day here for the first 6 days and 80 a day there after.


Judges wouldn't answer a telephone for the daily amount £65 you can claim on jury duty. Oh if you ever want get out of it just tell the authorities you absolutely have never had faith in or a believe anything a police officer says and so will just always vote not guilty.

Back on topic I think Le Vell comes from his mam's maiden name.

Wasn't that Lovell?
 
black mamba said:
markyboyblue said:
. This for me is a bad thing to stomach as it puts more pain and worry on the victim. You have to remember that tp do the things he has "allegedy" done he is not normal at all so he won't do the decent thing and own up.

Own up ???

Like women who falsely cry rape do , you mean ??

I don't know whether Michael Turner(Le Vell) is guilty or not , but if he really hasn't done it why should he plead guilty ????
I know a bloke who went in my local who pleaded guilty to abusing his step-daughter simply because of the difference in jail terms.
She admitted a few years later that she'd made it all up because she wanted her mum and dad to get back together.
 
2sheikhs said:
black mamba said:
markyboyblue said:
. This for me is a bad thing to stomach as it puts more pain and worry on the victim. You have to remember that tp do the things he has "allegedy" done he is not normal at all so he won't do the decent thing and own up.

Own up ???

Like women who falsely cry rape do , you mean ??

I don't know whether Michael Turner(Le Vell) is guilty or not , but if he really hasn't done it why should he plead guilty ????
I know a bloke who went in my local who pleaded guilty to abusing his step-daughter simply because of the difference in jail terms.
She admitted a few years later that she'd made it all up because she wanted her mum and dad to get back together.

I'd sooner take a bullet to the head than falsely admit to doing something like that.
 
Never Mind The Pollocks said:
2sheikhs said:
black mamba said:
Own up ???

Like women who falsely cry rape do , you mean ??

I don't know whether Michael Turner(Le Vell) is guilty or not , but if he really hasn't done it why should he plead guilty ????
I know a bloke who went in my local who pleaded guilty to abusing his step-daughter simply because of the difference in jail terms.
She admitted a few years later that she'd made it all up because she wanted her mum and dad to get back together.

I'd sooner take a bullet to the head than falsely admit to doing something like that.
Me too. I think he ended up getting 18 months but serving 12. His solicitor told him that if he pleaded not guilty and put her through a trial, he'd serve at least 5 years if found guilty. She never got punished for lying by the way.
 
2sheikhs said:
Me too. I think he ended up getting 18 months but serving 12. His solicitor told him that if he pleaded not guilty and put her through a trial, he'd serve at least 5 years if found guilty. She never got punished for lying by the way.

Is that true - what his/her name? Id like to read up on why she didnt get punished after admitting that. Obviously he was found guilty his name would have made the public domain and if she admitting lying that would also be.
 
johnmc said:
2sheikhs said:
Me too. I think he ended up getting 18 months but serving 12. His solicitor told him that if he pleaded not guilty and put her through a trial, he'd serve at least 5 years if found guilty. She never got punished for lying by the way.

Is that true - what his/her name? Id like to read up on why she didnt get punished after admitting that. Obviously he was found guilty his name would have made the public domain and if she admitting lying that would also be.
I'll find out his surname and Pm you John. Her name might not be in the public domain as she was still a minor.
 
2sheikhs said:
Never Mind The Pollocks said:
2sheikhs said:
I know a bloke who went in my local who pleaded guilty to abusing his step-daughter simply because of the difference in jail terms.
She admitted a few years later that she'd made it all up because she wanted her mum and dad to get back together.

I'd sooner take a bullet to the head than falsely admit to doing something like that.
Me too. I think he ended up getting 18 months but serving 12. His solicitor told him that if he pleaded not guilty and put her through a trial, he'd serve at least 5 years if found guilty. She never got punished for lying by the way.
I'd never admit to something I didn't do, especially being a nonce. The plod point out paedo's in the nick so other prisoners can beat the shit out of them. His way you are fucked 100%, pleading not guilty you give yourself a chance
 
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
If he's found guilty I hope he gets fucking bummed in Strangeways the rag c**t.

I nearly got bummed in Strangeways but I only had one M, so the lads wouldn't give it to me.














Scrabble helped pass the time but my spelling always lets me down!
 
Crouchinho said:
2sheikhs said:
Me too. I think he ended up getting 18 months but serving 12. His solicitor told him that if he pleaded not guilty and put her through a trial, he'd serve at least 5 years if found guilty. She never got punished for lying by the way.

I'd never admit to something I didn't do, especially being a nonce. The plod point out paedo's in the nick so other prisoners can beat the shit out of them. His way you are fucked 100%, pleading not guilty you give yourself a chance

Surely they put them in another wing amid high security? If Dale Cregan gets segregated then they'll be reducing inevitable mither by keeping kiddie fiddlers away from the normal inmates.

I was mates with a guy that did a couple of years for drug offences in his youth and he had some stories to tell about his time inside. Never once did he mention when a peado got fucked up.
 

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