Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

[IanBishopsHaircut]

He's still guilty..of being a rag ****

 

[bernabias home shirt]

That's what I was thinking. His whole personal life has been exposed to the public.

Me too
He has had his personal life dragged through the courts
Especially the bit abt drinking 6 or 7 pints every night for 20/30 years
I'm sure it was a reference to that.

There was no evidence that drinking ever got him into trouble, why should he stop?

I never said it did
He said he was going to go for a drink as it had been mentioned he likes a fair few during the trial,it was a dig at that as someone else has said
Good on him,he deserves a skinful after what he's been through.

 

[jimharri]

You expected no opinions to be posted in the cellar about such a high profile case?
Many people had him down as not guilty, should they have waited until after the trial, as well?

There is also the fact that he still could be guilty, it has just not been proven..

Well that's just plain daft, we may as well just bin the legal system and jail anyone who is ever accused of a crime...

Unless any new evidence is produced then the guy is not guilty.

I think what Pom was getting at was that such a high profile case would always be discussed in the cellar, people would have their opinions and share them. In repsonse to JH who seems to think cases shouldn't be discussed at all before there's been a verdict.

People weren't discussing it though, they just had him down as guilty; no ifs, buts or maybes. As for me; I posted several pages back that I had no idea whether he was guilty or not, and that all I expected was that he was given a fair trial.

 

[Vinjay]

Barrister used the glowing terms weak man, stupid man, drunk man to describe Le Vell. Only thing he missed out was United fan.

 

[bobmcfc]

Just asked someone if he got off

He said "yeah with little kids"


I did laugh so I guess it's straight to hell with me

 

[The Flash]

Well that's just plain daft, we may as well just bin the legal system and jail anyone who is ever accused of a crime...

Unless any new evidence is produced then the guy is not guilty.

I think what Pom was getting at was that such a high profile case would always be discussed in the cellar, people would have their opinions and share them. In repsonse to JH who seems to think cases shouldn't be discussed at all before there's been a verdict.

People weren't discussing it though, they just had him down as guilty; no ifs, buts or maybes. As for me; I posted several pages back that I had no idea whether he was guilty or not, and that all I expected was that he was given a fair trial.

Does it matter?

People are entitled to their opinion, JH.

Just because they don't put a cogent argument forward as to how they have come to their conclusion matters not.

This is Bluemoon, not the debating society. And I very much doubt the opinions expressed on this thread had any bearing whatsoever on LeVell receiving a "fair trial".

 

[bobmcfc]

So I guess now hes been cleared and is completely innocent he can open up up the Michael Turner daycare nursery, I will definitely be signing my kids up to attend. What a weight off ....

 

[The Flash]

So I guess now hes been cleared and is completely innocent he can open up up the Michael Turner daycare nursery, I will definitely be signing my kids up to attend. What a weight off ....

What's blue and full of Haribo?























Kevin Webster's overalls.

 

[Aphex]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

 

[stony]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

That was his own defence team that labeled him a weak, stupid, drunk.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

I this it was his own defence team that called him that not the prosecution.

 

[Aphex]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

That was his own defence team that labeled him a weak, stupid, drunk.

That's what I meant. No idea why I put prosecution.

He was in the same class as a girl I used to see. He cheated in his English exam apparently..

 

[bobmcfc]

So I guess now hes been cleared and is completely innocent he can open up up the Michael Turner daycare nursery, I will definitely be signing my kids up to attend. What a weight off ....

What's blue and full of Haribo?




Lol


















Kevin Webster's overalls.

 

[RandomJ]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

Would've been amusing if he cracked his own defence team.

 

[Aphex]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

I this it was his own defence team that called him that not the prosecution.

Clarkied.<br /><br />-- Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:51 pm --<br /><br />

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

Would've been amusing if he cracked his own defence team.

What I said was an enigma, I agree.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I hope the prosecution apologise for calling him a weak pisshead. If someone did that on the street they'd be heading for a crack.

I this it was his own defence team that called him that not the prosecution.

Clarkied.

You cant claim a clarkie just because you made a mistake.

 

[Techno]

Some of you seem to struggle with the concept that the girl might have been telling the truth but that the jury didn't feel they could convict him beyond reasonable doubt. There's a huge difference between telling a barefaced, vindictive lie about a rape that demonstrably never took place and a situation where it's one person's word against another. Le Vell might have lied through his teeth for all we know. Only he and the girl know what really happened.

But the prosecution failed to make a strong enough case. That's the outcome here. To me, that's one of the weaknesses of a jury based system. Cases aren't necessarily decided on the pure facts but on how the two sides present their case.

My dad was on a jury for a fraud case and he said that there was little doubt in the jurors' minds that the defendants had done it but the prosecution case was poorly presented & failed to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. Therefore they returned a not guilty verdict.

Don't think you are getting it. The prosecution didn't have a case to present.

The CPS obviously thought they did have a case or they wouldn't have taken it to court and wasted thousands of tax payers money.

I'm not so sure, I think the CPS covered their arses because he was 'famous'. I don't think there was enough evidence and I wonder whether the case would have been brought if he was just Joe Public.

 

[Aphex]

I this it was his own defence team that called him that not the prosecution.

Clarkied.

You cant claim a clarkie just because you made a mistake.

Oh, OK then.

I didn't realise you were in charge of handing out clarkies.

I do apologise.

 

[red 2 hats]

Michael le Vell found not guilty, I knew he'd come out of it smelling of Rosie.

 

[Ste1969]

After being found not guilty of child sex offences today at Manchester Crown Court, Michael Le Vell said to reporters that he intends to celebrate tonight by stopping off at the pub for a couple of tots