Michael Oliver to ref Liverpool v City - City lodge complaint

[Silva2021]

No, I’m asking in general. If the ref and VAR decide that it’s not a pen, but that play directly sets up a goal at the other end, what’s the outcome?

Do you get the feeling they haven’t fully thought out some of their ‘new’ rules?

And has anyone seen any clear evidence of Silva handling it?

It’s a strange one, but Silva did definitely handle it which makes it hard to give a penalty (going one hand to the other) The goal is unfortunate but Aguero and Gundogan I feel are both at fault.

Just crazy, I’m a football coach and consider to have good understanding of the game and believe I have learned to be impartial (although probably not).

My understanding is if TAA has his arms behind him it goes to Sterling, he scores VAR says no goal.

If Liverpool score the handball should therefore be given??

If Liverpool don’t score nothing is given??

Just confused, consistency and transparency is all we want and we are not getting it

 

[RyanP3609]

Just confused, consistency and transparency is all we want and we are not getting it

I think that's ultimately where a lot of people's annoyance and anger lies.. but they change their use of the rules on a weekly basis, and City are usually on the worse end of it. They can hide now behind a faceless decision..

 

[Project1]

He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

1- The new rule is regards to goals. City would have been awarded a set piece.

2- If they don’t give it because of handball against Silva then they have to bring back play for a free kick to Liverpool in their box (they can’t play advantage because that would still be a penalty).

Correct accidental handball that leads to a goal means disallowed. Silva handball would not have affected cancelling TAA blatant handball as this was not a goal. As soon as penalty is taken this is next passage of player which removes all previous VAR rules. Not my interpretation those are the laws.

 

[Silva2021]

I think that's ultimately where a lot of people's annoyance and anger lies.. but they change their use of the rules on a weekly basis, and City are usually on the worse end of it. They can hide now behind a faceless decision..

We have and the feeling is more unjust. We’ve yet to have that VAR moment where something genuinely game changing in a big game has gone for us.

Wenger was very critical today about offside and how the lines can be taken. It is a manual process as to when the player kicks the ball with the line automated.

The fact they are talking mm in some decisions and the speed of players, the decision as to when the ball is played is open to abuse/ inaccuracies with different operators judging slightly different.

The way forward is for this to also be automated, so at least we know it is fair or at the least have more of a margin in what is offside to give benefit to the attacker.

Today’s lack of transparency on Salah’s offside, whether off or on with it’s very quick check and no reply for 20 minutes is somewhat strange.

 

[ROCKET80]

I don't understand how anyone can argue that it should not have been a penalty to City.

The new rule is quite clear and none of what it states applies to Bernardo, as he neither scored nor created a goal scoring opportunity. So it's a nailed on penalty.

 

[mat]

Scouse **** jurno on Talkshite.

Calls spurs VAR wrong but no problem at Klanfield.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Bobby Madley the old ref tweeted there’s now another new rule with handball that a ”non-punishable” handball will not disallow a goal, which is when a goal comes after a handball but from a long pass or a counter attack with several passes. So because we won the ball back and there were a few passes before it it wasn't disallowed. Not heard anyone mention this new rule. Doesn’t make any sense.

So no idea what would happen if Trent had scored himself directly after it his hand or if he ran through from his own box and got an assist.

Ah Bobby, another bent **** who just disappeared at the right time.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

We can argue all day about VAR as no one has a clue in how it works now but one thing we can all agree on is that Oliver is a complete shithouse

 

[razman]

was so poor yesterday

 

[Saddleworth2]

There seems to be (this season) three teams who've greatly benefited from the complete clusterfuck of VAR use by these unqualified refs.

I can't think of as to why the three teams have so greatly benefited from it. Two of them (despite being self appointed "biggest teams in the world") don't even have screens in the stadium to facilitate VAR replays...

Those teams are.. Spurs, United and Liverpool.

You could not make it up. Level playing field eh?