Middle East Conflict (merged)

1000 people have been killed in Lebanon and over 6000 wounded so far. 1/5th of Lebananese people have fled their homes.

The amounts of those who were civilians hasn't been published but given the huge numbers either Israeli targeting is incredibly accurate and there are thousands of dead/wounded terrorists or more likely it's the opposite.

And we're getting our knickers in a twist that Iran have fired a few hundred tin cans that seemingly did no damage at all? The proportionality of difference in force and capability is plainly obvious.
Israel are probably feeling the pressure to get things done in the fairly narrow window of opportunity between now and the US elections. As it stands neither democrats or republicans will want to upset the Israel lobby but after the election I suspect the unequivocal support for anything they feel like doing militarily will diminish.
 
Obviously many on here paint them as the bad guys. But I think you are correct.
They've got involved in Africa in a different way to how the Europeans acted a century ago. And they don't invade countries 1000s of miles away.
Quite how they can mediate here is not obvious as unlike the US, France and Britain they've had no involvement in the middle east.
China does this by way of loans it has gone spectacularly wrong in some parts of the world in particular Sri Lanka, they are more interested in keeping their factories churning out crap than getting involved in the Middle East, but this is where the West is missing a trick go to any country that is at odds with the US and you will see massive Chinese investment, Cuba for example neatly everything that is made comes from China (in return for a large stake in their oil industry) and it will the the same in Iran, China will be cleaning up economically whilst the US goes about shooting itself in the foot
 
1000 people have been killed in Lebanon and over 6000 wounded so far. 1/5th of Lebananese people have fled their homes.

The amounts of those who were civilians hasn't been published but given the huge numbers either Israeli targeting is incredibly accurate and there are thousands of dead/wounded terrorists or more likely it's the opposite.

And we're getting our knickers in a twist that Iran have fired a few hundred tin cans that seemingly did no damage at all? The proportionality of difference in force and capability is plainly obvious.
Whataboutary.
Hezbollah and Hamas couldn't give a shit about their own people. The goal is the extermination of Israel.
If they did care they wouldn't have been launching missiles into Israel for years that Israel wouldn't need to respond to.
Just because Israel has the best anti missile defences in the world doesn't mean they should turn the other cheek all the time.
The shear volume of attacks over the last 5 years has to be responded to.
 
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Israel are probably feeling the pressure to get things done in the fairly narrow window of opportunity between now and the US elections. As it stands neither democrats or republicans will want to upset the Israel lobby but after the election I suspect the unequivocal support for anything they feel like doing militarily will diminish.
The Israel lobby is quite a myth in US politics, the vast majority of american Jews lean towards the left of politics, sure there are lobby groups but every country has them. The American pubic are in general not that sophisticated in matters of foreign affairs and that's being polite they don't understand complexities this of course can bleed through to Government Policy (the invasion of Iraq for example)
 
1000 people have been killed in Lebanon and over 6000 wounded so far. 1/5th of Lebananese people have fled their homes.

The amounts of those who were civilians hasn't been published but given the huge numbers either Israeli targeting is incredibly accurate and there are thousands of dead/wounded terrorists or more likely it's the opposite.

And we're getting our knickers in a twist that Iran have fired a few hundred tin cans that seemingly did no damage at all? The proportionality of difference in force and capability is plainly obvious.
It's like the kids in the West Bank sling shotting stones at the tanks and then getting shot in the head.
 
Whataboutary.
Hezbollah and Hamas coukdnt give a shit about their own people. The goal is the extermination of Israel.
If they did care they wouldn't have been launching missiles into Israel for years that Israel wouldn't need to respond to.
Just because Israel has the best anti missile defences in tge world doesn't mean they should turn the other cheek all the time.
The shear volume of attacks over the last 5 years has to be responded to.
As does the constant theft of Palestinian land in the West Bank by violent settlers aided and abetted by the Government.
 
Obviously many on here paint them as the bad guys. But I think you are correct.
They've got involved in Africa in a different way to how the Europeans acted a century ago. And they don't invade countries 1000s of miles away.
Quite how they can mediate here is not obvious as unlike the US, France and Britain they've had no involvement in the middle east.
Surely our people have sympathy for Syria, Lebanon and Palestine, but nothing we can do. Because now China is the pariah state in the international community.
Btw,only 10%~20% of Sri Lanka's debt was borrowed from China.
 
And well before then, and despite all the war and destruction still they come, does anyone think that perhaps solving the bigger issue rather than the symptom might actually go someway to solving this problem because war and destruction won't in fact it's just making it worse
That would be true if Hamas and Hezbollah wanted peace. They don't- their goal is the complete and utter destruction of Israel and it's Jewish population.
 

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