Middle East Conflict (merged)

[Bluemoon_420]

cue the victim card being pulled out!

 

[Bluemoon_420]

What was that Eds and co?

Amnesty accuses Israel of being an ‘apartheid’ state

Israel calls the claims ‘lies, inconsistencies, and unfounded assertions’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Blue Mist]

What was that Eds and co?

Amnesty accuses Israel of being an ‘apartheid’ state

Israel calls the claims ‘lies, inconsistencies, and unfounded assertions’

www.independent.co.uk

The shame of it is no one will listen and innocent people will go on suffering.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

The shame of it is no one will listen and innocent people will go on suffering.

Yep, it’s a fucking mess, but as the bastard child of Britain & the US their crimes must be defended at all costs. Rather than be held accountable for the heinous shit they pull, they are rewarded with aid!

The silence and lack of intervention despite all of atrocities committed speaks louder than words. The Israeli lobby doing a fine job.

 

[Blue Mist]

Yep, it’s a fucking mess, but as the bastard child of Britain & the US their crimes must be defended at all costs. Rather than be held accountable for the heinous shit they pull, they are rewarded with aid!

The silence and lack of intervention despite all of atrocities committed speaks louder than words. The Israeli lobby doing a fine job.

Whilst the U.S. are to blame for the current mess, we are solely to blame for the start of the shit show. Our lies and broken promises go back to the First World War. We have been lying ever since whilst innocent people suffer and die.

For lies see also Burma and no doubt many other countries.

 

[Blue Mist]

Tonight my thoughts are with the family of Omar Assad.
Another innocent person killed by the Israeli Army.
He was 78.

 

[The blue phantom]

Tonight my thoughts are with the family of Omar Assad.
Another innocent person killed by the Israeli Army.
He was 78.

"In a rare statement acknowledging error, the Israeli army said Asaad’s death during a late-night operation in the village of Jiljilya on the outskirts of Ramallah on January 12 was a result of “moral failure and poor decision-making”.

I wonder if they would of released this statement had Omar not held an American passport?

 

[Blue Mist]

"In a rare statement acknowledging error, the Israeli army said Asaad’s death during a late-night operation in the village of Jiljilya on the outskirts of Ramallah on January 12 was a result of “moral failure and poor decision-making”.

I wonder if they would of released this statement had Omar not held an American passport?

The answer is no.
Further whilst a couple of senior officers have been denied promotion for 2 years as a form of punishment, no one responsible for his death has been arrested or charged with any offence.

 

[KPXBLN]

Yep, it’s a fucking mess, but as the bastard child of Britain & the US their crimes must be defended at all costs. Rather than be held accountable for the heinous shit they pull, they are rewarded with aid!

The silence and lack of intervention despite all of atrocities committed speaks louder than words. The Israeli lobby doing a fine job.

I'm pretty much checked out of this thread as it doesn't really go anywhere, but I wanted to say that the influence of the 'Israel lobby' in British/American/Western politics is mostly overstated. The US, especially, is far wealthier and militarily powerful than Israel. Israeli politicians and lobbyists can have some influence in US politics on particular issues, and there is an important voting bloc in the US that supports Israel (in many cases, not Jewish Americans, many of whom, especially the younger generation, are quite critical of the occupation.) Overall though, the relationship is actually the other way around: the US supports Israel because it's useful for them to do so. Focusing on the power of the supposed Israel lobby is mostly inaccurate, and risks shading into the kind of antisemitism that straightforward criticism of the occupation manages to avoid.

The balance of power in the US-Israel relationship lies with the US, a point which should hardly require argument. The suggestion that a nation with a population the size of London holds the whip hand over the greatest superpower of all time is one that lacks basic credibility. Of course, Israel has some bargaining power in the relationship, partly through AIPAC’s efforts on Capitol Hill, and partly through its own freedom to act, which is real if limited. But what the ‘Israel lobby’ thesis glosses over is that the US, not Israel, is the superpower in the relationship.

AIPAC is Not the Reason for US-Israeli Ties | Novara Media

Since Ilhan Omar drew attention to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) on social media last Sunday, there’s been much discussion of the significance of the 'Israel lobby’ in US politics. David Wearing argues we’d do better to situate our analysis of US-Israeli relations within a...

novaramedia.com

 

[Blue Mist]

For decades we were (rightly) urged to boycott South Africa because of the apartheid regime that ran the country.
Why then are we so quiet about Israel ?
Last week Amnesty International condemned Israel and specifically used the term Apartheid in the way they inhumanely treat the Palestinian people. The damming report has it seems been ignored by the world.