Middle East Conflict

[mexico1970]

Albert Einstein, and his fellow Jewish compatriots started the movement of de-zionizing Israel since 1920s and up to the late 1940s on telegram, on public newspaper, on his public speeches.

He himself was one of the early movement of Zionism, but true Zionism as the branch of protoZionism, which at the time was of an Israel that need no army, no nationalism and no Jewish supremacy. It was because of Israel eventually from the 1930s to the 1940s were prioritising more on an army, nationalism of the land by force (with foreign finance from the Rothschild), and Jewish supremacy that the true zionists (Einstein) were against the faux zionists.

It’s unfortunate that Zionism became the veil of reason and facade to cover the militia objectives of the 1900s Irgun, Haganah and Lehi - which are the tenets of today‘s IDF.

To be fair to you mate, at least you don't try to hide it and you're in plain sight.

 

[Brewster's millions]

What a bunch of conceited, virtue-signalling idiots. They genuinely can’t help themselves.

Half of them can barely read.

 

[SWP's back]

What does that mean?

I thought you were in the know on what the speakers meant when they say (or failed to say) words at the march.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I thought you were in the know on what the speakers meant when they say (or failed to say) words at the march.

For someone not looking to stir you seem a tad adverserial today. Have you had your cornflakes?

It's ambiguous language. Was that because he meant something else than "kill all Jews" or because it was a way of saying "kill all Jews" and staying within the law, nobody knows.

 

[cucumberman]

All these overscrupulous pedanticism on dezionism (antizionism, faux zionism) is killing all Jews.

Don’t be marginalised or rather staying impressionable on what is anti-semiticism.

I really don’t bother harping on. If you’re pussyfooting just go to WHSmith tomorrow and buy a few books on discerning what zionism is. If you have a tenner, by Ilan Pappe’s book “Ten Myths About Israel”. There are several more on the same shelf. Go to Foyles. Or Amazon Books. Take your pick. There are dozens of Jews who have conducted very pragmatic views and experiences of zionism.

https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/ten-myths-about-israel/ilan-pappe/paperback/9781786630193.html

In this thread, I’m less interest of the hum and haws, but more of 1 Gazan killed in every 6 minutes.

 

[Postman Pep]

The reality of El Kurds childhood was well documented. Why so full of hate people ask.





Given that dissecting his words are so important here's a lengthy interview he gave last year .... pre 7/10.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The reality of El Kurds childhood was well documented. Why so full of hate people ask.





Given that dissecting his words are so important here's a lengthy interview he gave last year .... pre 7/10.

Those settlers look like a very peaceful bunch, modern day good Samaritans. :)

 

[cucumberman]

To be fair to you mate, at least you don't try to hide it and you're in plain sight.

If you want to breathe in what is in plain sight of Israelis indoctrinated by their education and self kaleidoscopic view in the increasingly right-wing proclivities, here’s just a few first-hand plain sight conclusions of indoctrinated Israelis; mainly detached from the global populace. Unfortunate but yes, that’s your plain sight.







To be fair, my Jewish connections are moderate and left-wing. With PhDs, EdDs, Irs. and Jur, they are mainly more docile and anti-zionist. Also, many of them have been expelled from ever coming back to Israel.

 

[metalblue]

All these overscrupulous pedanticism on dezionism (antizionism, faux zionism) is killing all Jews.

Don’t be marginalised or rather staying impressionable on what is anti-semiticism.

I really don’t bother harping on. If you’re pussyfooting just go to WHSmith tomorrow and buy a few books on discerning what zionism is. If you have a tenner, by Ilan Pappe’s book “Ten Myths About Israel”. There are several more on the same shelf. Go to Foyles. Or Amazon Books. Take your pick. There are dozens of Jews who have conducted very pragmatic views and experiences of zionism.

https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/ten-myths-about-israel/ilan-pappe/paperback/9781786630193.html

In this thread, I’m less interest of the hum and haws, but more of 1 Gazan killed in every 6 minutes.

Zionism has had various generally accepted interpretations over time and has many different types. To call for the world to be dezionised is not just pointless, it’s inflammatory. As per my earlier post people like this making such unrealistic demands are the barrier to peace. No more so than an Israeli demanding the end of a Palestinian state or a subservient Palestinian population is a barrier either. Change comes from you, expecting the other side to change will only lead to disappointment.

What’s troubling is this is what passes as someone worthy of a soap box at a rally, a rally that was to protest at the very last thing in your post, the killing of innocent civilians in Gaza (and the West Bank).

 

[metalblue]

If you want to breathe in what is in plain sight of Israelis indoctrinated by their education and self kaleidoscopic view in the increasingly right-wing proclivities, here’s just a few first-hand plain sight conclusions of indoctrinated Israelis; mainly detached from the global populace. Unfortunate but yes, that’s your plain sight.







To be fair, my Jewish connections are moderate and left-wing. With PhDs, EdDs, Irs. and Jur, they are mainly more docile and anti-zionist. Also, many of them have been expelled from ever coming back to Israel.

I’m not sure a couple of tiktok videos passes the threshold of evidence.