Middle East Conflict

If only the answer to an age old war was that simple.

There is not a chance Israel will let ‘low level fighters’ go off into exile. Those same fighters more than likely took part in a massacre last week. How would you even know who was lower ranked?

They’ve also been trying to cut off routes for years and haven’t been able to do it, especially when countries like Iran are supplying them.

Hamas as a group can’t continue, especially after last week. War might not be the right answer, but it’s not a shock to see Israel wanting to fight back against a massacre.

Israel has one of the most sophisticated intelligence networks in the world.

There are ways of finding out.

Some killers will slip through the net, of course. But once they leave they won't be able to come back and their usefulness to jihad will be minimal.

Identified butchers don't need to be given safe passage.
 
Not a peep about what, Are you saying Israel have the right to use White Phosphorus?
No they shouldnt be using it.
- I'm just asking why the big who-ha about Isreal using some and the complete silence from the human rights brigade about Russia using truck loads of the stuff mostly every day for a huge proportion of the 597 days of the war so far?
 
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And 'sleepy Joe' and that Charlatan in Downing Street will say nothing. apart from 'we stand by Israel', any idea why dumb fuck Sunak has send the RN and marines there?, unless it's to help evacuate UK citizens why are we there? Is he looking for his Thatcher Falkands moment albeit on a much smaller scale?.
They aren't Royal Navy ships.
 
I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention for the last 20 years but Israel killing loads of Palestinian civilians, bombing them to hell, blocking the borders, not allowing them to have power or aid or fish in the Mediterranean or have an airport or a seaport and continually building new settlements has done absolutely nothing to protect Israeli families.

They cannot stop this with violence.

They will invade, kill 40-60,000 people (half of whom are children) and the Hamas leadership will be watching from Qatar laughing themselves silly that they’ve just got another generation of recruits.
Kill 40-60,000 people, seriously?
 
One thing is certain, when you watch what human beings can do to each other, I’m 100% sure there is no God because if there was, no way would he let us do any of this barbaric shit to each other.
So you’re not buying into the ‘he moves in mysterious ways’ narrative then!?

Outside of the clear nonsense of it all, It’s amazing to think these lot actually believe in the same god?
 
There is an alternative it's just that nobody is actually saying it, Israel need to not exist it needs moving or be moved and no other solution is acceptable.

Hamas want them dead, you get the feeling that if Israel was uprooted and moved to bloody Kansas some Hamas nuts will find them and try to eradicate them.

Has anyone got a solution that Hamas would listen to?

Hamas is 30-40,000 fighters and maybe 2x that in hangers on in a population of 2.4million.

They are such a tiny minority that if you offered the people of Gaza a choice between Hamas and freedom, secure boundaries, hospitals, food, power etc then there’s only one winner and it’s not Hamas, they’d be a tiny minority overnight and all but gone in a few years.

You have to offer people an alternative if you want them to abandon someone - after all that’s how Israel got rid of the PLO.

Remember the median age in Gaza is 18. The last election in Gaza was 17 years ago.
 
How many more times does this need to repeated. Hamas do not sit in buildings in an area where there aren't other buildings with a big sign up saying Hamas is here. They will store weapons in mosques, hospitals, schools, civilian homes etc - this is a fact and cannot be disputed despite what people on here think. They base themselves deliberately in civilian areas. Today Israel has warned civilians in the North of Gaza to evacuate, what have Hamas said. Told them it's all fake propaganda and to remain where they are. When Hamas tell you to stay where you are, that's what a lot of people do as they are scared for their own lives.

They’re evil monsters and fundamentally a load of cowards. Same bracket as ISIS.
 

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