Middle East Conflict

[Roachy]

To prove exactly what, effects of 1000lb or 2000lb bomb explosion on the surrounding area? Their is daily footage of 6,7,8,etc floor-building collapsing without being directly hit. It is like Oklahoma City bombing all over Gaza City. But that is what I said, once you say to yourself 'We are Israel and Israel is us' and feel how it sits with you, it is much easier to bend your own perception of what is going on.

I'm totally aware of the effects of different types of ordnance on specific targets and the surrounding area. What I'm disputing is you stating every single crossroad has been hit coupled with claiming that precision guided weapons are much worse than carpet bombing.

 

[kaz7]

It's just as horrible to accuse of the same crime without evidence.
You weren't talking about recent history.
You are accusing a specific group at a specific time of a specific act, without a shred of evidence.
Not only are you accusing, you are sure it's happened.

Russians rape ukranian women and girls , it is a sad fact that soldiers who behead babies wont think twice about rape and murder , it is used to terrorsise populations

 

[Oldham Exile]

I don’t know why people don’t just wait until it’s been confirmed whose bomb it was before jumping to conclusions. It took about ten days for the one in August 2022 to be confirmed it was Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

This is a similar situation. If it was Israel, it will be proven eventually.

Having been catching up on this thread and reading many pages - I would suggest that maybe because there are a number of posters that are more concerned that waiting for the truth could be perhaps seen as inconvenient as they want to have the thread steered towards their firm bias

 

[mosssideblue]

What you and I might say and what the president of the worlds most powerful country are very different standards. I appreciate he is very old, but frankly I don’t think it’s rude to say that he’s probably a bit too old for his job.

As I said, not sure his words were the best, but Ivan understand why

 

[The blue phantom]

Having been catching up on this thread and reading many pages - I would suggest that maybe because there are a number of posters that are more concerned that waiting for the truth could be perhaps seen as inconvenient as they want to have the thread steered towards their firm bias

So what you're saying is when every news organisation has a breaking news banner saying Israel have bombed a Hospital, We shouldn't post those words?

 

[CTID1988]

Having been catching up on this thread and reading many pages - I would suggest that maybe because there are a number of posters that are more concerned that waiting for the truth could be perhaps seen as inconvenient as they want to have the thread steered towards their firm bias

Waiting for the truth? basically every single major news outlet published that Israel bombed a hospital. Who are the public supposed to trust if we can't trust that, who exactly do we wait for to give us the truth

 

[SWP's back]

We're constantly told that Hamas want to wipe Israel off the map.

Yes, by Hamas.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Having been catching up on this thread and reading many pages - I would suggest that maybe because there are a number of posters that are more concerned that waiting for the truth could be perhaps seen as inconvenient as they want to have the thread steered towards their firm bias

You’re not trying to suggest that there are two sides to this conflict and that they tend to believe their own side more than the other?

 

[BringBackSwales]

As I said, not sure his words were the best, but Ivan understand why

Yeah I can understand why too. He is a doddery old man who is too old and frail for such a big job. In my opinion only of course

 

[MouldensChippy]

So what you're saying is when every news organisation has a breaking news banner saying Israel have bombed a Hospital, We shouldn't post those words?

There's a very old saying............ Here it is, printed all the way back in 1710 by Jonathon Swift

Besides, as the vilest Writer has his Readers, so the greatest Liar has his Believers; and it often happens, that if a Lie be believ’d only for an Hour, it has done its Work, and there is no farther occasion for it. Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect…

It has evolved into numerous similar, though more modern sayings, such as ........

A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.

This seems to be of zero interest, or consequence to many in this particular thread.