Middle East Conflict

[Tim of the Oak]

Then even if Hamas were willing to release hostages to get a ceasefire, what does Israel do with no hostage families campaigning against a ground invasion that would put hostages at risk?

As I said, probably wishful thinking on my part. I think the ground invasion hasn’t happened so far because Israel has an intelligence deficit and a lot of Israelis / IDF would lose their lives.

It’s clear that the people making the decisions about the hostages are doing a bit more thinking than the savages on the October 7th attack. All evil no doubt, but some a bit more tactical. There are some obvious PR wins. Release the husbands of the returned hostages who shook the hands of their captors. There will be other hostages who are a burden because of medical needs etc. Having so many hostages is probably a burden as other posters have said.

Al hostages should be returned but there is no real detriment to Hamas IIMHO if they release 50 hostages for starters.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I'm pretty sure Hamas's casualty figures could be on the low end judging by the catastrophic pictures and videos of what's left of Gaza. The new Aleppo.

You think?
Hamas would never under report casualties in a billion years?
There are also generally warnings before each strike (not always but mostly).
Also it's in their interests to bolster numbers.

 

[BayernMan]

 

[BayernMan]

 

[dublinblue12]

You know exactly it's not revenge, it's a bit more difficult. There's a terror organization about to found a radical Islamist state without Israel or a single Jew anyway near them.

Do you want Hamas to stay in control of Gaza?
If not, how do you want to end their terror regime? How, without any civilians harmed, with Hamas shielding themselves by civilians? How?
Isn't that the fucking problem? Our fucking problem?

We want a Palestine state. But we don't want Hamas or an Iran-like Islamist state near Israel. How do we get Hamas off the table?



I don't believe for a second you missed Biden's message, Scholz', Baerbock's or Gutuerres'. We can add dozens.
Pressure is already there and you know it.
As if your weird numbers would be backed. EU already are completely divided on that matter. As are UK.

So, what would you do in this crisis if you were PM of Israel, and a moderate one?

I would brainwash as many people as possible to consider all Palestinians as terrorists. I would indiscriminately bomb the most densely populated area of the planet. I'd then cut off the water, electricity and commit various other war crimes on the general population. I'd prevent aid getting through. I'd ensure any one that raises a concern about this is accused of supporting terrorism being a nazi. Any objections to innocent children being blown up would be met with cold indifference and what aboutery. I'd then send in the ground troops to finish them off. After I have finished commiting genocide I'd consider moving any remaining Palestinians into the Sinai dessert.

Edit:sorry you said moderate, I thought you said evil

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You think?
Hamas would never under report casualties in a billion years?
There are also generally warnings before each strike (not always but mostly).
Also it's in their interests to bolster numbers.

It may have something to do with the hundreds of people likely stuck under rubble or bodies blown to bits and unrecognisable as that of a single person.

And the IRA usually telephoned in warnings before letting off their bombs. I don't think it mattered to the families of victims, though.

 

[The blue phantom]

Sunak just repeating the same old line on PM questions about the Palestinian massacres. " Israel needs to defend itself" that shithouse Starmer has followed this same path too.

 

[Gray]

It cannot be right that innocent people are being slaughtered and their homes obliterated.

Somebody do something about it please.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Is the daft **** seriously suggesting that they did occur in a fucking vacuum?

 

[St.Pauli support]

I would brainwash as many people as possible to consider all Palestinians as terrorists. I would indiscriminately bomb the most densely populated area of the planet. I'd then cut off the water, electricity and commit various other war crimes on the general population. I'd prevent aid getting through. I'd ensure any one that raises a concern about this is accused of supporting terrorism being a nazi. Any objections to innocent children being blown up would be met with cold indifference and what aboutery. I'd then send in the ground troops to finish them off. After I have finished commiting genocide I'd consider moving any remaining Palestinians into the Sinai dessert.

Edit:sorry you said moderate, I thought you said evil

Poor reply. Really sad. I am not interested in counting victims going back 10 years, or 50, or 108, or 1400 as we should have learnt it brings us nowhere. We have to start finding a quick solution from now.

So you, my smart friend, can try to answer my difficult questions.

And of course you owe me the version of the moderate PM.