Middle East Conflict

[Dax777]

also if you watch to the end he is such a pussy that having been punched by a few women he lobbed a tear gas grenade at them as he fled

Okay that was wrong. I missed that in my original viewing. But I stand by his interactions with the original kid and the one the caption to the video was based on.

If the kid did throw stones, then i see nothing wrong with the soldier trying to detain him. Battery is wrong even when you feel justified.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

First posters were outraged that Israel was accused of bombing a hospital and then they bombed 3 hospitals at the same time.
Before that posters were outraged about a robbery at a Jewish restaraunt

 

[Vic]

Are you saying if a kid throws stones he should not be arrested?

Forget that particular video. Should settlers shooting landowners be arrested? If that wasn't happening, maybe children wouldn't throw stones at soldiers protecting settlers.

 

[Ducado]

It’s just horror upon horror, I do hope that Americans are putting more pressure on behind the scenes, because at the moment they look complicit, if they are not careful this will spawn more violence across the world

What’s more they must know that this is brilliant for Iran in its bid to lead the Muslim world, it’s influence is growing all the time, especially at street level

 

[Paul1970]

Apart from the odd few rockets going in from the West Bank hezzbollah wilk not get into a war they cannot win with Israel and neither will Iran. It’s ok for them to keep stoking the flames and saying death ti the infidels but the people of Gaza need this second front opening now . Cannot belive this country and the west is sitting back and watching genocide happen .

 

[urban genie]

Apart from the odd few rockets going in from the West Bank hezzbollah wilk not get into a war they cannot win with Israel and neither will Iran. It’s ok for them to keep stoking the flames and saying death ti the infidels but the people of Gaza need this second front opening now . Cannot belive this country and the west is sitting back and watching genocide happen .

The west don't give a fuck about deaths/invasions/genocide globally unless it affects them, if ukraine didn't border NATO countries zero fucks would be given like when they invaded chechnia georgia or annexed crimea, niether were a threat to borders. Same goes for recent invasions of socotra ethiopia and somalia, where a passing interest is shown but no real care that illegal incursions have happened as it doesn't effect them mainly economicaly or politicaly

 

[Ducado]

Apart from the odd few rockets going in from the West Bank hezzbollah wilk not get into a war they cannot win with Israel and neither will Iran. It’s ok for them to keep stoking the flames and saying death ti the infidels but the people of Gaza need this second front opening now . Cannot belive this country and the west is sitting back and watching genocide happen .

The amount of armaments they have they could virtually destroy large parts of Israel in the process, but from their point of view they don’t need to get involved Israel and America are doing a fine job in helping the Iranian cause

At the moment they are happy watching from the sidelines, the biggest concern is the transfer of nuclear technology from North Korea if that happens all bets are off

 

[The blue phantom]

You just get up each morning and see how many more have been slaughtered. I see Netanyahu doesn't even want a Humanitarian pause never mind the Ceasefire which the majority of the world wants. These people are beyond fuckin evil. Murdering innocent Palestinians with impunity and not giving a single fuck.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It’s just horror upon horror, I do hope that Americans are putting more pressure on behind the scenes, because at the moment they look complicit, if they are not careful this will spawn more violence across the world

What’s more they must know that this is brilliant for Iran in its bid to lead the Muslim world, it’s influence is growing all the time, especially at street level

Netanyahu is a fucking mug. He’s been played like a fucking fiddle the daft nonce ****.

 

[Ducado]

Netanyahu is a fucking mug. He’s been played like a fucking fiddle the daft nonce ****.

If you look into the Islamic way of thinking they preach patience, to them Israel is just another Crusader state, they are quite happy to allow it to destroy itself, in fact lots of Nastallhs speech was about the need for patience, to them each human life is just a pawn in gods larger plan

The biggest mistake that has been made was being drawn into the spiders web, Israel is fast losing international legitimacy especially in the third world, again it’s all part of the plan, it gives Iran a much bigger market place, for example what would Cuba trade for Iranian oil, a hell of a lot, same with many African countries

 

[Roachy]

Netanyahu is a fucking mug. He’s been played like a fucking fiddle the daft nonce ****.

What does the "played" bit relate to exactly, just out of interest.

 

[Vic]

The amount of armaments they have they could virtually destroy large parts of Israel in the process, but from their point of view they don’t need to get involved Israel and America are doing a fine job in helping the Iranian cause

At the moment they are happy watching from the sidelines, the biggest concern is the transfer of nuclear technology from North Korea if that happens all bets are off

The USA giving Saudi Arabia nuclear technology should help.

 

[sir baconface]

Distressing pictures from today, how do we reconcile this in our minds?

We don’t. Or at least I don’t. Both protagonists in this conflict appear to be compulsive, vicious and practised liars. So what looks at first sight to be a copper-bottomed war crime always attracts a plausible counter-claim.

The one thing we know for certain is that both sides are well capable of, if not comfortable with, committing atrocities.

Result? Either take nothing at face value or carry on supporting the side you are on.

 

[Indaparkside]

Anyone supporting Israel are cunts there using destroying hamas as an excuse to MURDER innocent civilians, children dying and reciting their prayers before they go while badly injured heartbreaking the west , America etc needs to intervene strongly fuck we support Israel genocide is happening on a large scale and being ignored cunts the lot of them

 

[robbieh]

I thought I'd post this here as I didn't want to start a new thread and Iran is involved in the current crisis.
Iran is often portrayed as the big bad wolf by the West while the faults of allies such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt,India are conveniently overlooked.
I don't know if it is one of the oldest established countries on earth but it must be close.

Refugees in Iran - UNHCR Iran

800,000 refugees live in Iran, of which 780,000 are Afghans and 20,000 are Iraqis. It is estimated that 2 million undocumented Afghans also live in Iran.

www.unhcr.org

 

[sir baconface]

One thing I really hope is that we don‘t get sectarian or geo-politically driven demonstrations in this country on Armistice Day.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

This is irrelevant in regards to the video I responded to. The poster of that video made a claim about the video showing a soldier brutalizing a child. It wasn't a general claim about the West Bank. It was a specific claim about what's on the video we were about to watch.
The video DOES NOT support that claim. Which was and still is my point.



Again, none of this is relevant to the video we saw as it relates to the truthfulness or falsehood of the claims made about the video.


No, I don't need to do any of that. I have made no claims regarding what happens generally. I have simply stated what I saw from viewing the video.

And my response was not callous. It was simply observing that the video provided.

I am fine with the actions of the IDF soldier in that video as it relates to the kid

It’s not irrelevant at all mate, you didn’t see what led the kid to throw the stone before the clip starts, context is important. Like I said, I’ve seen how the Palestinians are provoked into such actions, it’s on record by IDF soldiers as a tactic they use.

You’re fine with it and that’s your prerogative.

 

[Roachy]

One thing I really hope is that we don‘t get sectarian or geo-politically driven demonstrations in this country on Armistice Day.

I agree with this. Leave this day alone. Potential for real flashpoints otherwise. I attend Remembrance Sunday to pay my respects along with many others, and it doesn't need to be sullied by any aggravation.

 

[trueblue1972]

Anyone supporting Israel are cunts there using destroying hamas as an excuse to MURDER innocent civilians, children dying and reciting their prayers before they go while badly injured heartbreaking the west , America etc needs to intervene strongly fuck we support Israel genocide is happening on a large scale and being ignored cunts the lot of them

You realise that If genocide was the aim this could be achieved in like 3 hours total right ?

 

[urban genie]

Netanyahu is a fucking mug. He’s been played like a fucking fiddle the daft nonce ****.

Tongue firmly in cheek with this one?

Netanyahu and Khamenei have vested interests in perpetual tension im the region, neither will directly go to war with each other though, Irans anti-israeli crap is geopolitics

The Iranians and Israelis tollerated a behind the scenes alliance for decades as both needed each other to fend off potential threats in the region, that all went to shit once Saddam was toppled, their bilateral threat was gone and the buffer between both.
Since 99 both leaders have been running scared of their own downfall, bibi from his many corrupt endevours and schemes and Ali from a growing disfatisaction from the Iranian people over his archiac and represive rules, keeping regional tensions high helps keep them in power

They even again indirectly backed each other during the arab spring to help keep assad in power, as he is no threat to either but a more influential turkey or saudi would be plus any fledling democracy on their doorstep could inspire iranians to up their fight for change while for israel proper secular and non extremist opposition to their policies as a regional voice could be a thorn in the side.

Saudi and Israel stiking a deal and becoming more co-operative and Saudi courting Iraq to have more influnce has triggered Iran as they don't want any Arab nation gaining a strong influence over the northern middle east and along their borders more than they have.

An age old story of the Levant, Persians, Israelites and Arabs all fighting to protect themselves and their influence and power


Both cunts know what they are up to