Middle East Conflict

Israel hasn't done themselves any favours by behaving as they have.
But if Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran hasn't attacked Israel then they wouldn't have been counter attacked themselves.
Strange that.
The bottom. Line is that Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran want the genocide of 7.5m Jews.
Yes it's perfectly understandable that Israel, a democratic country, treat International law with impunity and collectively punish anyone of Arab persuasion for that reason, they are on the verge of being wiped out and are 100% not partaking in some ethnic cleansing while increasing their illegal settlements
 
The anti-Torah and anti-Bible of the zionism Israel is simple.

Herzl founded Zionism.
Herzl revisioned Zionism as that of Greater Israel as the promised land

Jabotinsky aligned Nazi aryanism with Herzl’s zionism.
Jabotinsky founded the Zionist Federation of Germany that appeased early Hitler and Nazi Germany for the Haavara Agreement.
Jabotinsky is the grandfather of Likud.

Netanyahu is a Likud member.
The cabinet is a mixture of Likud and far-right Messianic parties.

Herzl > Jabotinsky > Netanyahu
 
"Netanyahu is on a winning streak".

Vile propaganda


Their PR is terrible they come across in press conferences and news briefs as cold and heartless they are not they just come across that way

The weight of the world public opinion is on them and they are loosing and it matters a lot to them
 
Normalised lives means exactly what it says, Arabs and Jews deserve to go about their daily business unhindered and not under the threat of missile attacks, having their land stolen et, etc
Take religion out of the equation and centuries (millennia?) of Holy War out of the equation, and who knows?!
 
Frankly, that's an astonishing admission. "This round of conflict"? I take it you don't mean the round of all the building of illegal settlements.
Multiple wars, multiple incursions, multiple step backs to “recognized borders,” multiple pencil lines on a map.
Pick a year in history and let’s use those borders, shall we? Which year do you want to use?

And, frankly, I’m no longer sure I understand the word “illegal” as it relates to maps, buildings, wanton destruction, or the death of innocents.
 
To indiscriminately bomb Lebanese people and call it simple collateral is just wrong.

Assumes facts not in evidence, and is amusing given the ballistic nature of the rockets their proxies rain down on the Israeli population.

If Israel dropped a nuclear bomb on Beirut killing millions then is that collateral because apparently it seems so?

And, that post wins the internet’s “Hyperbolic Hypothetical of the Day” award.
Congratulations!
 
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Before the October 7th massacre, in 2023, 300 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank alone. This is an ongoing process. October 7th did not just happen in a vacuum.
I didn’t say it did.

What was the objective? Did they bother to think about October 8th? 9th? The live streaming of the murder of Americans in Israel?

Tit for tat with a bigger stronger foe eventually gets you a good slap. Not many expected this slap, but then maybe they mistook the slapper for someone else?!

Appears to have been a big mistake, UNLESS the real objective was to start a massive regional war, while America (Israel’s biggest ally) is in a precarious situation?

I was chastised about the continued re-arming of Israel by the US months ago, when being told I was a monster for supporting the U.S. export of bombs and missiles and aircraft to Israel while they pushed south in Gaza!

I dared to say that the U.S. has to maintain a strong Israel because Hamas (& Hezbollah) are impotent without Iranian finance and arms, and they have to ready to defend themselves NOT against Hamas, but Iran.

Guffaws ensued…even though Israel was already defending themselves on both (H&H) fronts.

Now, here we sit.

What, no laughing anymore at the prospect of Iranian missiles raining down on Israel???

No giggling over the possible Israeli response(s)?

The conflict in this entire region is amongst nations and peoples with exceedingly long memories, yet most of us put events into the new social media timeline context of yesterday, last week, or last month.

These people are playing multi-generational, possibly multi-century, three dimensional chess…and so far only the pawns and a few rooks, plus a black knight (or two) have being taken. Let’s see how far the kings will go to protect their queens!
 
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And, frankly, I’m no longer sure I understand the word “illegal” as it relates to maps, buildings, wanton destruction, or the death of innocents.
 
Ah yes, the UN!
 
Not sure I’d take the word of a Russia supporting Fox News and RT pundit and a Trump fan.
I know your standard routine is to trash the source but what are you questioning here?

Is it the reality of widely shared footage or is your quibble about the quoted numbers of dead, injured and displaced?
 
I know your standard routine is to trash the source but what are you questioning here?

Is it the reality of widely shared footage or is your quibble about the quoted numbers of dead, injured and displaced?
I was quibbling about the hyperbolic statement about Beirut being destroyed.
It now looks like the tweet has gone so maybe I was right.
 
I didn’t say it did.

What was the objective? Did they bother to think about October 8th? 9th? The live streaming of the murder if Americans in Israel?

Tit for tat with a bigger stronger foe eventually gets you a good slap. Not many expected this slap, but then maybe they mistook the slapper for someone else?!
Appears to have been a big mistake, UNLESS the objective was to start a massive regional war, while America (Israel’s biggest ally) is in a precarious situation?

I was chastised about the continued rearming of Israel by the US months ago, when being told I was a monster for supporting the U.S. export of bombs and missiles and aircraft to Israel while they pushed south in Gaza!

I dared to say that the U.S. has to maintain a strong Israel because Hamas (& Hezbollah) are impotent without Iranian finance and arms, and they have to ready to defend themselves NOT against Hamas, but Iran.

Guffaws ensued…even though Israel was already defending themselves on both (H&H) fronts.

Now, here we sit.

What, no laughing anymore at the prospect of Iranian missiles raining down on Israel???

No giggling over the possible Israeli response(s)?

The conflict in this entire region is amongst nations and peoples with exceedingly long memories, yet most of us put events into the new social media timeline context of yesterday, last week, or last month.

These people are playing multi-generational, possibly multi-century three dimensional chess…and so far only the pawns and a few rooks, plus a black knight (or two) have being taken. Let’s see how far the kings will go to protect their queens!
Who are the kings in this scenario? If it's Iran and the US, I think it's fair to point out only one is middle eastern.
 
I know your standard routine is to trash the source but what are you questioning here?

Is it the reality of widely shared footage or is your quibble about the quoted numbers of dead, injured and displaced?
The X post has been deleted.
What does THAT mean?
 
Assumes facts not in evidence, and is amusing given the ballistic nature of the rockets their proxies rain down on the Israeli population.



And, that post wins the internet’s “Hyperbolic Hypothetical of the Day” award.
Congratulations!
How can you use the word "amusing" in this context. Words fail me...
 

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