Middle East Conflict

[BlueTG]

James O'Brien calling out those branding people 'anti semitic' when people are actually just calling out the monstrous genocide and ethnic cleansing by israel:

"Tens of thousands of people are dead, hospitals are being bombed, schools are being attacked, people are being set on fire, and a third of the governing party is planning on spending this weekend calling for the cleansed territory to be occupied illegally by Israeli, and you think there's something anti-semitic about describing the truth; the facts".



Israeli's are already bragging about removing Palestinians permanently from Jabalia.

Ethnic cleansing:



Looks like it wasn't about any hostages at all (well knock me down with a feather). Nevermind, only 40000+ people been slaughtered so far.

Shame

Lebanon will go the way of Palestine in the coming months. Conveniently Israel continue to expand their ‘operations’ deeper into their country. But the hostages.

 

[Don Karleone]

James O'Brien calling out those branding people 'anti semitic' when people are actually just calling out the monstrous genocide and ethnic cleansing by israel:

"Tens of thousands of people are dead, hospitals are being bombed, schools are being attacked, people are being set on fire, and a third of the governing party is planning on spending this weekend calling for the cleansed territory to be occupied illegally by Israeli, and you think there's something anti-semitic about describing the truth; the facts".



Israeli's are already bragging about removing Palestinians permanently from Jabalia.

Ethnic cleansing:



Looks like it wasn't about any hostages at all (well knock me down with a feather). Nevermind, only 40000+ people been slaughtered so far.

Shame

JOB is still a ****. He's part of the problem

 

[Vic]

Good points. The moderates basically need to eradicate the extremists in their own countries! Which means civil war on top of the current conflict. What a mess.



Some people just see it in 'Winning' and 'Losing' terms whilst many of us do not particularly care who wins and loses and just see it as a 'Living' or 'Dying' issue. I'm hopeful that the void left by Hamas is filled with people who are absolutely sick of this shit show and show a real willingness to negotiate. The Israelis, in return, could elect leaders who, likewise, have a real willingness to negotiate a mutually beneficial existence.

Wasn't the Northern Ireland peace movement led by two women? Wouldn't it be wonderful if two peace movements were created in each country and led by women? Women tend to think different to men!

It won't be the Israeli ambassador to the UK leading a peace movement. Not much different thinking from her.

"I want it to be clear that I do not recognise the national rights of Palestinians in the Land of Israel. I recognise their human rights and their individual rights, and also their individual political rights - but between the sea and Jordan there is room for one state, a Jewish state."

 

[bluethrunthru]

but between the sea and Jordan there is room for one state, a Jewish state."

remember when that was an anti-Semitic statement?

 

[bluethrunthru]

is it finally sinking in that the world is watching?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ex-nsc-deputy-head-claims-govt-secretly-approved-generals-plan-calls-on-soldiers-to-refuse-to-carry-out-war-crime/

 

[Vic]

remember when that was an anti-Semitic statement?

No, no, get it right.

That was "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." The other one is fine (and Likud had toned that down from when it was "From to sea to beyond the river ...")

 

[Vic]

The answer is probably yes. Just like native Americans would have avoided a genocide if only they'd said "of course you can have our land and kill off all our food sources".

Is this how you think?

"All the trouble is due to misunderstanding – the Arabs have not understood us, and that is the only reason why they resist us; if we can only make it clear to them how moderate our intentions really are, they will immediately extend to us their hand in friendship."

I see this got no reply.

For the record, this was Revisionist Zionist Jabotinsky describing what naive Zionists thought. He was arguing that the Arabs would resist the hostile colonisation of their land, so Zionists would have to show it wasn't worthwhile trying to resist.

What's going on now is the same policy. The only remnant of a figleaf for that continued policy is that the Arabs had their chance in 1948 to give in gracefully to Zionist terrorism and a few mild atrocities.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

IDF soldiers should refuse orders which may be war crimes, Israeli ex-security adviser tells BBC

A former senior security official tells Fergal Keane that Israel might be committing war crimes in northern Gaza.

www.bbc.co.uk

We we're only following orders isn't an excuse that anyone can use.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Interesting

Looks like israel is making up lies again so they can murder the last remaining journalists in north gaza. Quite the tally they''re going for. This would mean there is a media blackout, because they banned all media from entering long ago.

It's been the same as usual on twitter again this week - piles of dead and wounded civilians being carried to hospital, 3 year old children with their heads blown open and their brains hanging out. You dread to think how bad it will get when there is no one to get the word out, but no one can pretend they didn't know about this. Shame

 

[Palerider]

It won't be the Israeli ambassador to the UK leading a peace movement. Not much different thinking from her.

"I want it to be clear that I do not recognise the national rights of Palestinians in the Land of Israel. I recognise their human rights and their individual rights, and also their individual political rights - but between the sea and Jordan there is room for one state, a Jewish state."

Not bothered who starts the peace movement but it needs to happen and anybody not onboard with peace (on either side or indeed on here) needs to be sidelined into a sanatorium.