Milner>>>>>Barry

[PaulPowerShower]

As appose to Barry who does everything 6/10, at one pace (super slow) and offers less then Milner

Barry has been decent this season (barring Villa.) Whilst I want to see Milner given a go in the centre to offer more energy, I think you severely underrate Barry.

Milner to me seems to run about a lot then when he gets the ball he tends to freeze and pick a predictable pass

I think Barry can just hit a blinder first time.m Barry doesnt have to be quick, he never seems to me to get caught out really

 

[dancity19]

Barry has been decent this season (barring Villa.) Whilst I want to see Milner given a go in the centre to offer more energy, I think you severely underrate Barry.

Milner to me seems to run about a lot then when he gets the ball he tends to freeze and pick a predictable pass

I think Barry can just hit a blinder first time.m Barry doesnt have to be quick, he never seems to me to get caught out really

I agree, Barry often creates a bit of space for himself from a good turn and picks out a good pass. I have rated him this season, and he was quality in his first 6 or 7 games for us last season, then he was woeful against Villa and suffered from then. If Milner was to rediscover his Villa form then it would be interesting, as he displayed a great range of passing, and football brain there.

 

[Ntini77]

Barry and Milner would both be benched if it were up to me and my midfield 3 would be this

----NDJ----Yaya----
-------Silva---------

I would love to see this for the majority of our remaining games, but can't see Mancini being that adventurous unfortunately.

I'm not sure I agree about Yaya being 'world class' though. He makes some excellent driving runs, but his passing is somewhat inconsistent and the game can sometimes pass him by. Basically, I'd like to see him get involved a bit more, which might mean he has to get fitter.

 

[dancity19]

Hes been in Barcas team Dave and he would walk into any midfield in the Prem. I think over the past couple of months Yaya has been very very good for us! The guy is a beast!

None of that makes him world class.

World Class means he would get into a World 11. He's nowhere near.

He can play, he's powerful and a good passer. But he's slow on the ball and, I think, out of position where he is. I'd go as far as to say then when all our players are fit he may have to step down.

I'm not doing him down, I'd love to see him in a 4-4-2.

I'd hate to see him in a 442 as he is way to ponderous and laborious for the centre of midfield in the english game. He is better where he is, attacking when he sees a bit of space. If we played 442 I don't think he would start in the centre of midfield, not got the energy.

 

[Ntini77]

None of that makes him world class.

World Class means he would get into a World 11. He's nowhere near.

He can play, he's powerful and a good passer. But he's slow on the ball and, I think, out of position where he is. I'd go as far as to say then when all our players are fit he may have to step down.

I'm not doing him down, I'd love to see him in a 4-4-2.

I'd hate to see him in a 442 as he is way to ponderous and laborious for the centre of midfield in the english game. He is better where he is, attacking when he sees a bit of space. If we played 442 I don't think he would start in the centre of midfield, not got the energy.

Playing a 4-4-2 would serious hinder Silva, so it's a big no from me.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

None of that makes him world class.

World Class means he would get into a World 11. He's nowhere near.

He can play, he's powerful and a good passer. But he's slow on the ball and, I think, out of position where he is. I'd go as far as to say then when all our players are fit he may have to step down.

I'm not doing him down, I'd love to see him in a 4-4-2.

I'd hate to see him in a 442 as he is way to ponderous and laborious for the centre of midfield in the english game. He is better where he is, attacking when he sees a bit of space. If we played 442 I don't think he would start in the centre of midfield, not got the energy.

If we played 4-4-2 we'd have a selection headache in the middle and noone to play out wide. I think he'd be the right player for the middle, although his tackling isn't the best, but so would Milner. De Jong is nearly undroppable and I like Barry too. Four into 2 doesn't go. On reflection, if we were 4-4-2 he wouldn't start for me. Milner and De Jong would.

In terms of where he plays now his speed of thought isn't there, unlike a Silva. He powers forward well, but not always effectively.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Hes been in Barcas team Dave and he would walk into any midfield in the Prem. I think over the past couple of months Yaya has been very very good for us! The guy is a beast!

None of that makes him world class.

World Class means he would get into a World 11. He's nowhere near.

He can play, he's powerful and a good passer. But he's slow on the ball and, I think, out of position where he is. I'd go as far as to say then when all our players are fit he may have to step down.

I'm not doing him down, I'd love to see him in a 4-4-2.

Disagree.

Most would consider the following World Class centre midfielders

Xavi
Iniesta
Fabregas
Sneijder
Nasri
Essien
Alonso

Now theres 7 players who just popped into my head, theres many more, they cant all play in your World XI so which ones are not World Class?

For me World Class means someone you would consider to be up there with the very best and would get in most sides in World football. As Yaya played a lot of games in what for me is the best football team I have ever seen that makes him World Class.

I do agree that he is being played out of position though, he should be playing instead of Barry and Silva should be playing in Yayas current advanced centre midfield role instead of playing as one of the front three.

 

[dancity19]

I'd hate to see him in a 442 as he is way to ponderous and laborious for the centre of midfield in the english game. He is better where he is, attacking when he sees a bit of space. If we played 442 I don't think he would start in the centre of midfield, not got the energy.

Playing a 4-4-2 would serious hinder Silva, so it's a big no from me.

Unless it's a 442 diamond formation.

------De Jong-----

--Milner/Barry----Toure/Barry

-------Silva-------

 

[OrigamiNinja]

I'd hate to see him in a 442 as he is way to ponderous and laborious for the centre of midfield in the english game. He is better where he is, attacking when he sees a bit of space. If we played 442 I don't think he would start in the centre of midfield, not got the energy.

If we played 4-4-2 we'd have a selection headache in the middle and noone to play out wide. I think he'd be the right player for the middle, although his tackling isn't the best, but so would Milner. De Jong is nearly undroppable and I like Barry too. Four into 2 doesn't go. On reflection, if we were 4-4-2 he wouldn't start for me. Milner and De Jong would.

In terms of where he plays now his speed of thought isn't there, unlike a Silva. He powers forward well, but not always effectively.

Sorry Dave, I think you are one of the best posters on here and I always respect your opinion but on this I disagree strongly! Milner isnt good enough to get into one of the three centre midfield places that are up for grabs now. He certainly wouldnt be good enough to get in if the available centre midfield places was cut to two. To suggest that he would get in any team in front of Yaya is plain wrong! Milner is not fit to lace his boots! I would liken it to suggesting that Jo should replace Tevez!

 

[dancity19]

I'd hate to see him in a 442 as he is way to ponderous and laborious for the centre of midfield in the english game. He is better where he is, attacking when he sees a bit of space. If we played 442 I don't think he would start in the centre of midfield, not got the energy.

If we played 4-4-2 we'd have a selection headache in the middle and noone to play out wide. I think he'd be the right player for the middle, although his tackling isn't the best, but so would Milner. De Jong is nearly undroppable and I like Barry too. Four into 2 doesn't go. On reflection, if we were 4-4-2 he wouldn't start for me. Milner and De Jong would.

In terms of where he plays now his speed of thought isn't there, unlike a Silva. He powers forward well, but not always effectively.

I think we are in agreement there aren't we..! Seems you have said mainly what I said, or at least what I was thinking. Only difference is I think he can be quite useful where he is now. I was a big critic at first, but he has had a good few months. Doesn't fit into a 442, but unless it's a diamond midfield, not many of our players do.