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only1paulsimpson said:
imo milner isnt worth anything over 15m. i think we should look elswhere,why not put a bid in for ozil?? looked class in the world cup
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Because we're not after an Ozil type player, the most obvious Milner alternative would be Schweinsteiger, and the other one we've been linked with is Ramires (which looks pretty unfounded). The chances of us targeting Ozil went to 0 once we signed Silva.

Ozil isn't an alternative to Milner because they offer completely different things to the team.
 
pee dubya said:
only1paulsimpson said:
imo milner isnt worth anything over 15m. i think we should look elswhere,why not put a bid in for ozil?? looked class in the world cup
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Because we're not after an Ozil type player, the most obvious Milner alternative would be Schweinsteiger, and the other one we've been linked with is Ramires (which looks pretty unfounded). The chances of us targeting Ozil went to 0 once we signed Silva.

Ozil isn't an alternative to Milner because they offer completely different things to the team.
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Milner and Schweinsteiger are much more different than milner and ozil. Schweinsteiger has been reborn as a centre mid whereas ozil is CAM/winger, milner is not a centre mid player....
 
whynot? said:
pee dubya said:
Because we're not after an Ozil type player, the most obvious Milner alternative would be Schweinsteiger, and the other one we've been linked with is Ramires (which looks pretty unfounded). The chances of us targeting Ozil went to 0 once we signed Silva.

Ozil isn't an alternative to Milner because they offer completely different things to the team.
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Milner and Schweinsteiger are much more different than milner and ozil. Schweinsteiger has been reborn as a centre mid whereas ozil is CAM/winger, milner is not a centre mid player....
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erm yes he is.....
 
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whynot? said:
Milner and Schweinsteiger are much more different than milner and ozil. Schweinsteiger has been reborn as a centre mid whereas ozil is CAM/winger, milner is not a centre mid player....
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erm yes he is.....
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winger.....
 
whynot? said:
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erm yes he is.....
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winger.....
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Well he won PFA young player of the year last season playing as a box-to-box central midfielder.....

He's versatile, and can do a job all across the midfield. But i prefer him in the centre to on the flanks.
 
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whynot? said:
winger.....
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Believe me as a Villa fan who has watched him last season...he is a centre Midfield player. He won PFA Young player of the year due to playing CM.

He is a poor Winger.
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i think mancini would play him left wing to cut inside though
 
whynot? said:
irreverent ad said:
Believe me as a Villa fan who has watched him last season...he is a centre Midfield player. He won PFA Young player of the year due to playing CM.

He is a poor Winger.
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i think mancini would play him left wing to cut inside though
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Mancini can play him in goal if he wants. But I would think if he is paying £25-£30m for him he will play him in his best position. Which is CM. I think he will replace Barry.
 
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whynot? said:
i think mancini would play him left wing to cut inside though
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Mancini can play him in goal if he wants. But I would think if he is paying £25-£30m for him he will play him in his best position. Which is CM. I think he will replace Barry.
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o well whenever i saw him for england he was on the wing. i dont really watch villa play, ive always assumed he was a winger. is anyone going to buy barry though? waste of money for anyone really.
 
whynot? said:
irreverent ad said:
Mancini can play him in goal if he wants. But I would think if he is paying £25-£30m for him he will play him in his best position. Which is CM. I think he will replace Barry.
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o well whenever i saw him for england he was on the wing. i dont really watch villa play, ive always assumed he was a winger. is anyone going to buy barry though? waste of money for anyone really.
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I think a fair few teams would take Barry (Spurs, L'pool, Everton etc). The problem is no team would match the wages he is on.
 
Neville Kneville said:
alera said:
Same. You really struggle to find any city fans that think he is a good signing even at £15 million. Personally I dont know anyone that thinks we should sign him.

In the centre is he better than Silva or Ireland ? On the right is he better than SWP or A J.

I honestly dont think so. Pointless signing IMO our squad is that good now we need more than strength and commitment. And before anyone says Tevez he has a hell of a lot more in his locker than hard work as he proved last season and in the world cup.

Anyway cant wait for the season to start season tickets showed today very nice.
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He is a different kind of player to all of those mentioned which in itself may be the reason for signing him. We haven't really got anyone similar.
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this^^^^^^^^^
some of you on here just don't get it do you

stop comparing him to ozil, dejong, ireland, barry etc etc, he is more of a complete midfield player an all rounder effective in all areas of the pitch defensively and offensively, we do not and have not had this type of player in our club for many a year

and milner has a lot more in his locker than hard work and effort check out his assists and goals scored stats if you need convincing about the final 3rd off the pitch up there with gerrards better than both silva and iniesta
also won 81% of tackles made last season that is up there with the best defensive midfield players
and if villa want £30mill and mancini see's him as an integral part of his plans who are we to argue about the cost
 
big blueballs said:
Neville Kneville said:
He is a different kind of player to all of those mentioned which in itself may be the reason for signing him. We haven't really got anyone similar.
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this^^^^^^^^^
some of you on here just don't get it do you

stop comparing him to ozil, dejong, ireland, barry etc etc, he is more of a complete midfield player an all rounder effective in all areas of the pitch defensively and offensively, we do not and have not had this type of player in our club for many a year

and milner has a lot more in his locker than hard work and effort check out his assists and goals scored stats if you need convincing about the final 3rd off the pitch up there with gerrards better than both silva and iniesta
also won 81% of tackles made last season that is up there with the best defensive midfield players
and if villa want £30mill and mancini see's him as an integral part of his plans who are we to argue about the cost
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fact.
 
whynot? said:
irreverent ad said:
Mancini can play him in goal if he wants. But I would think if he is paying £25-£30m for him he will play him in his best position. Which is CM. I think he will replace Barry.
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o well whenever i saw him for england he was on the wing. i dont really watch villa play, ive always assumed he was a winger. is anyone going to buy barry though? waste of money for anyone really.
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England play Gerrard on the wing as well because they're fucking stupid.
 
big blueballs said:
Neville Kneville said:
He is a different kind of player to all of those mentioned which in itself may be the reason for signing him. We haven't really got anyone similar.
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this^^^^^^^^^
some of you on here just don't get it do you

stop comparing him to ozil, dejong, ireland, barry etc etc, he is more of a complete midfield player an all rounder effective in all areas of the pitch defensively and offensively, we do not and have not had this type of player in our club for many a year

and milner has a lot more in his locker than hard work and effort check out his assists and goals scored stats if you need convincing about the final 3rd off the pitch up there with gerrards better than both silva and iniesta
also won 81% of tackles made last season that is up there with the best defensive midfield players
and if villa want £30mill and mancini see's him as an integral part of his plans who are we to argue about the cost
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thank fook a few people with sense on here for a change!
 
crystal_mais said:
I think he will be a quality signing for us..

lets say if Mourinho would have been manager and wanted him, would people still question it..
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Yes. Just because we'd have a manager of superior reputation in the game, it wouldn't alter my opinion that James Milner is an average player who had a good season just like Stephen Ireland did in the season of 08/09. Every player is prone to it, remember Jaun Pablo Angel scoring 23 goals for Aston Villa one season and Arsenal were after him? He done it for one season and now he's in America.

I'm sorry but I just don't rate him. If he comes then I'll support him, but I just don't see what anyone sees in him. If he was moving to Spurs / Liverpool then we wouldn't be arsed either way and we wouldn't be throwing our toys out of the pram something stupid would we?

He's a "take him or leave him" player and nothing to get excited about.
 
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