Milner [Merged]

[Neil McNab]

Ireland's best season was OK, still went missing a lot, had a lot of goals set up for him which made it look a whole lot better. Milner was the hub of a team that achieved a lot more than us in Ireland's best year. Finally Milner has everything right between his ears, Ireland is a complete fruit cake!

His best season was OK? He got player of the year at City. To have an OK season and still pip it over the likes of Robinho is remarkable.

Its just so typical and easy to cast someone off when they have a bad season. Milner is no better Ireland, both have strengths and weaknesses. If you take a look at the bigger picture, Irelands strengths are exactly what we missed last year. The technical ability and skill to pick a pass. Milners strengths is what we've already got in Tevez's workrate and Adam Johnsons crossing.

Where did City finish that season? All too easy to remember the highlights, for much of that season we were pretty awful and when we were it was when our midfield was over ran. Ireland is a different type of player to Milner but also a level below.

 

[Monkfish]

I'm inclined to agree with the earlier poster who likened him to Fletcher at the rags. I think he could be the player sat in the middle of the park who does the dirty work and helps the players around him function. Theres no doubting the difference he made to Villa last year, you want proof of how much he means to them pop over to a Milner thread on any forum of theirs.

 

[PSmyth07]

His best season was OK? He got player of the year at City. To have an OK season and still pip it over the likes of Robinho is remarkable.

Its just so typical and easy to cast someone off when they have a bad season. Milner is no better Ireland, both have strengths and weaknesses. If you take a look at the bigger picture, Irelands strengths are exactly what we missed last year. The technical ability and skill to pick a pass. Milners strengths is what we've already got in Tevez's workrate and Adam Johnsons crossing.

Where did City finish that season? All too easy to remember the highlights, for much of that season we were pretty awful and when we were it was when our midfield was over ran. Ireland is a different type of player to Milner but also a level below.

What does it matter where City finished? Are you trying to tell me that we played awful because of Stephen Ireland? Interesting.

Where did we finish when we had Kinkladze at the club?
Where did Leeds finish when they had Alan Smith, Viduka, Matteo, Robinson and even the flamboyant wonderkid James Milner at the club?

You could say it about alot of players but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're poor.

 

[The Big Irishman]

All this talk of Stevie Ireland going as a makeweight in this deal is stopping me sleeping. Ok he didn't set the world alight last season but he has got genuine class, 1-0 down and 10 minutes to go he would be just the sort of player you would want to come on and change a game.
If we are desperate to land Milner the makeweight in the deal needs to be Gareth Barry not someone who understands the club, is loved by many fans and also has unfinished business with the club.

 

[Blue Coop]

As much as i know football is a squad game. Ours is looking increasingly hard to handle with the amount of players that a quality enough for first team football in top teams. Another addition in the shape of Milner and it's another player to squeeze in playing time for, Surely this has to become a concerning factor at some point.

 

[mrt4919]

O'Neill has overplayed his hand.Milner has not handed in a transfer request,we have them by the ball's.
Let them sweat,would not increase the offer and throw in the woefull Bridge to reduce the cost if need be.
Villa need the cash its obvious but the glare of gold has clouded thier judgement they seemtobe dictating the price , LOL
We can walk away....... be fun to see O'Neill unpick the tangle he has created with Milner

 

[BobKowalski]

O'Neill has overplayed his hand.Milner has not handed in a transfer request,we have them by the ball's.
Let them sweat,would not increase the offer and throw in the woefull Bridge to reduce the cost if need be.
Villa need the cash its obvious but the glare of gold has clouded thier judgement they seemtobe dictating the price , LOL
We can walk away....... be fun to see O'Neill unpick the tangle he has created with Milner

We won't walk away. We were never going to walk before MoN opened his mouth and having now opened it Milner is as good as signed. City want Milner. They want his attitude, his versatility, his work ethic, his ability - you name it City want it. City are not interested in playing dumb games with Villa they just want Milner. Its pretty simple really.

 

[TonyM]

I think if we walk away Milner, O'Neill and Aston Villa will recover pretty quickly. He'll be gone the following season though as his contract will be expiring. Villa would have loss an opportunity to amke a buck but I think they'd prefer that if it meant a better season the following year. I'm sure all the really think they'll get next season is top 6 and a chance at a cup. They don't need to invest heavily to get that.

So IMO they are under no complement to us. We can walk away and I don't think anyone will lose sleep over it. Or we can pay whatever Aston Villa think is fair to them. I'd imagine that 25m. Whether that's a fair valuation on the player is irrelivant I guess.

The funny thing I think is that if we pay 30m everyone will give out that City are paying to much for average players, yet this is meant to be the great hope for England's future and the benefactors of the deal are Villa... how they spend the money should be the big question....will they plough this into other English clubs to help develop English talent... or will they buy a couple of Johnny Foreigners from Spain or the like? I get confused as to how exactly we are destroying football but it definitely is happening.

 

[MCFCDerek]

No better than ireland and worse than Barry.

 

[heatonmoorblue]

O'Neill has overplayed his hand.Milner has not handed in a transfer request,we have them by the ball's.
Let them sweat,would not increase the offer and throw in the woefull Bridge to reduce the cost if need be.
Villa need the cash its obvious but the glare of gold has clouded thier judgement they seemtobe dictating the price , LOL
We can walk away....... be fun to see O'Neill unpick the tangle he has created with Milner

O'neill wont care and will be as stubborn as he was when liverpool wanted barry, we either pay what he wants or we wont get him. Milner will still play to his best as he is that sort of player. Personally i think we should wait a year, see how he does this season and even if he does well we would get him for less next summer as he wont be signing a new contract.