Milner update.

[Anonymous]

Oh dear! Seems there's more fly by night, Jonny come lately, Football Manager playing, kiddies in this thread than I thought...

Rest assured children, Ireland won't be going to Villa Park as part of any deal for Milner. You want to know why? Because City refuse to be ripped off this summer, and no matter what y'all think, 20 million plus Ireland is worse than paying 24 million for Lescott last summer...

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Oh dear! Seems there's more fly by night, Jonny come lately, Football Manager playing, kiddies in this thread than I thought...

Rest assured children, Ireland won't be going to Villa Park as part of any deal for Milner. You want to know why? Because City refuse to be ripped off this summer, and no matter what y'all think, 20 million plus Ireland is worse than paying 24 million for Lescott last summer...

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh dear! Seems there's more fly by night, Jonny come lately, Football Manager playing, kiddies in this thread than I thought...

Rest assured children, Ireland won't be going to Villa Park as part of any deal for Milner. You want to know why? Because City refuse to be ripped off this summer, and no matter what y'all think, 20 million plus Ireland is worse than paying 24 million for Lescott last summer...

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

The sad thing is DD, reading Bluemoon it's crystal clear just how disloyal certain segments of City's support have become. It's not just about Stevie. Everyone from Bellamy to Ade to Neds is slagged off to high heaven and back by the teenyboppers simply because of all the money swirling around at Eastlands. It's like real life FM for some of these fucking kids. "Sell, sell, sell...buy, buy, buy..." The grass is always greener, the emperors new clothes, etc....

 

[avoidconfusion]

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

Completely agree... although I think I would take a straight swap but everything else would be madness and totally ridiculous.

 

[Adebayors lovechild]

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

Completely agree... although I think I would take a straight swap but everything else would be madness and totally ridiculous.

Completely agree with boht of you...but...

I think we could settle with stevie +5 mil for milner?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

The sad thing is DD, reading Bluemoon it's crystal clear just how disloyal certain segments of City's support have become. It's not just about Stevie. Everyone from Bellamy to Ade to Neds is slagged off to high heaven and back by the teenyboppers simply because of all the money swirling around at Eastlands. It's like real life FM for some of these fucking kids. "Sell, sell, sell...buy, buy, buy..." The grass is always greener, the emperors new clothes, etc....

You're right, Billy, and Stevie Ireland seems to bring out this brigade more than any other player.

Same phrases ad infinitum. They hear them in the South Stand bar and they become a mantra.

"he needs to sort his head out", "one season wonder", "off his rocker".....

Most people who know the game know Stevie Ireland is a class act who had a bad season for very good reasons. In and out the side, constantly out of position, injury and of course the loss of confidence which these things create.

It was great to see him pinging the ball about at the end of the last friendly. Looked like the Stevie of old to me - and from a deep position.

If he gets a run of games he'll shine again, no doubt. Good players don't become bad players overnight (unless they get injured)

Milner? Another Barry for me. Industrious enough and a reasonable player. I wouldnt have a strop if he signed but it doesn't excite me to be honest.

 

[i8rags]

Oh dear! Seems there's more fly by night, Jonny come lately, Football Manager playing, kiddies in this thread than I thought...

Rest assured children, Ireland won't be going to Villa Park as part of any deal for Milner. You want to know why? Because City refuse to be ripped off this summer, and no matter what y'all think, 20 million plus Ireland is worse than paying 24 million for Lescott last summer...

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

its not about what we the fans value players at, its reallity. stevie is a very gifted footballer but so is robinho. some would say robbie might have more talent, yet what is he worth. using robbie as an example he is an international and a shirt seller with some image earning ability. stevie has chosen to be a non international and his image worth is not much. all these factors affect the value we can put on a player. the other factor to bear in mind, like it or not, his form is liable to dip quite often, whereas milner for eg is very reliable in terms of what you see you get. the stupid valuation put on milner is born out of the fact that we have in the past paid vast sums for a similar standard of footballer. because we pay these amounts does not mean we can command inflated prices in return.

 

[m27]

The sad thing is DD, reading Bluemoon it's crystal clear just how disloyal certain segments of City's support have become. It's not just about Stevie. Everyone from Bellamy to Ade to Neds is slagged off to high heaven and back by the teenyboppers simply because of all the money swirling around at Eastlands. It's like real life FM for some of these fucking kids. "Sell, sell, sell...buy, buy, buy..." The grass is always greener, the emperors new clothes, etc....

You're right, Billy, and Stevie Ireland seems to bring out this brigade more than any other player.

Same phrases ad infinitum. They hear them in the South Stand bar and they become a mantra.

"he needs to sort his head out", "one season wonder", "off his rocker".....

Most people who know the game know Stevie Ireland is a class act who had a bad season for very good reasons. In and out the side, constantly out of position, injury and of course the loss of confidence which these things create.

It was great to see him pinging the ball about at the end of the last friendly. Looked like the Stevie of old to me - and from a deep position.

If he gets a run of games he'll shine again, no doubt. Good players don't become bad players overnight (unless they get injured)

Milner? Another Barry for me. Industrious enough and a reasonable player. I wouldnt have a strop if he signed but it doesn't excite me to be honest.

I really rate the lad and if he comes we'll finally have a balance in midfield we lacked last saeason and it will also mean that we can an effective 442 if Mancini decides to go that route now and again.

Ya Ya and Milner as the central midfield pairing is a million times better than any combination Mancini tried last season.

In regards to Ireland, if he starts sitting deeper and pinging passes to all and sundry then we're in business because there's no-one at the club who does that well.

 

[TonyM]

£20m + Ireland for Milner would be the worst piece of tranfer business the club has ever done.

PErsonally, I wouldn't take a straight swap.

The sad thing is DD, reading Bluemoon it's crystal clear just how disloyal certain segments of City's support have become. It's not just about Stevie. Everyone from Bellamy to Ade to Neds is slagged off to high heaven and back by the teenyboppers simply because of all the money swirling around at Eastlands. It's like real life FM for some of these fucking kids. "Sell, sell, sell...buy, buy, buy..." The grass is always greener, the emperors new clothes, etc....

I'd agree except there's the extreme the other direction too. NDJ for example is godlike to some. Given is the best keeper in the league supposedly. Tevez is without any faults to his game. Mancini is the best manager we've ever had. And we are going to win the league or come very close.

There's too much extremes. I think we are going into a season in as confused a state as I can remember. We have no clue as to who's staying, who's going and how we are to be managed. Even under Hughes' and Sven we smmed better prepared for the task ahead (the task being a lot easier too may I add). Even under Pearce and before we were better prepared to meet our goals.

I'm not saying we have crap players or haven't brought in excellent talent. Or that Mancini is crap. I just have no reason to be overly confident about what's ahead for us this season. Optimistic yes. Confident no.

Calling for heads for the chop in this choas is ridiculous imo. So Ireland and co should stay. And so should Mancini. But the whole lot better start playing some decent football soon or there's will be bedlem in Manchester when our lofty expectations aren't met.

 

[i8rags]

The sad thing is DD, reading Bluemoon it's crystal clear just how disloyal certain segments of City's support have become. It's not just about Stevie. Everyone from Bellamy to Ade to Neds is slagged off to high heaven and back by the teenyboppers simply because of all the money swirling around at Eastlands. It's like real life FM for some of these fucking kids. "Sell, sell, sell...buy, buy, buy..." The grass is always greener, the emperors new clothes, etc....

You're right, Billy, and Stevie Ireland seems to bring out this brigade more than any other player.

Same phrases ad infinitum. They hear them in the South Stand bar and they become a mantra.

"he needs to sort his head out", "one season wonder", "off his rocker".....

Most people who know the game know Stevie Ireland is a class act who had a bad season for very good reasons. In and out the side, constantly out of position, injury and of course the loss of confidence which these things create.

It was great to see him pinging the ball about at the end of the last friendly. Looked like the Stevie of old to me - and from a deep position.

If he gets a run of games he'll shine again, no doubt. Good players don't become bad players overnight (unless they get injured)

Milner? Another Barry for me. Industrious enough and a reasonable player. I wouldnt have a strop if he signed but it doesn't excite me to be honest.

its all about opinion. there is a very successful team down the rd, with a little ginger twat in midfield. who no matter if he plays 10 or 20 games a year plays to a certain standard at all times. either coming back from injury or if the midfield around him changes like the wind. he also does not excite, but i know this much, i wish he had worn the blue of city these last ten years.