Monaco - Post Match thread.

We should have played a 5-3-1-1.

Sagna stones fernando kolorov cliche
yaya ferna delph
silva
kun

CANT LET THE SCORE 2 GOALS!!!!
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Played poorly in the first half of both matches, but especially last night.

Realistically we knew we weren't good enough to win it but it's crazy that Leicester have got further than us.
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Why? They are champions of England and play with energy and enthusiasm unlike us we are soft as shite and lie down for the opposition in difficult games.
 
My take on tonight...KDB was playing too deep, however (that aside) he does have a common tendency to play the short pass too short, and when he plays too deep that turnover in possession can be a killer. Don't get me wrong, he can often be a game changer and I wouldn't be without him - but he needs to include 'completed' passes into his game.

We got bullied a bit today - we rely heavily on skillful short passes, but today against Monaco we needed to be quick and incisive. For all our possession, their keeper could have sat on a deckchair between the sticks in the first half. I remember at one time we'd completed 100 more passes than them yet we hadn't had one shot at their keeper. That's simply not good enough at this level.

I feel that if we'd have won this match we'd have got out of jail, but there's a good chance we wouldn't have progressed any further unless our key players stepped up to the mark. We were too slow on the ball and didn't retain it when we had it - I lost count of the times we hit it either out of play or yards too far in front of our striker/s.

We can only blame ourselves (i.e. the players) for tonight. The result wasn't down to the ref, the pitch, the colour of the ball or shirts - our players simply didn't seem to want it enough tonight.
 
Logged onto the OS Match Day coverage, checked the line-ups and was gutted to see that both Zabba and Yaya were on the bench. A warrior and a maestro left out - daft omissions by Pep in my mind. And why the hell he didn't add to the defensive midfield after Sane's goal beggars belief.
 
Silva poor again when it comes down to it ( big game ) , DeBruyne was garbage , always end on a positive note Leroy in 2 years will be unplayable
 
Depressing. No idea what actually happened to us despite all the talk from Pep about how we were going to play. Yet again we concede goals via our comical ageing defence and can't actually score the gilt edged chances that are gifted to us. This is why we will never compete in Europe effectively or even a remote chance of winning it. You don't see Bayern or Barca gifting teams goals like we did last night. We are the laughing stock of the League now. Leicester the only British team left. We had a good opportunity to push forward in this competition but bottled it. No doubt Pep will have some serious questions asked by the grown ups in the club with respect as to what went wrong. Not sure if the owners will keep putting up with the inconsistency in our game. I really want him to make a difference here but it seems as though he's struggling. Maybe he has a big plan for a cull in the summer transfer window because we are just not able to compete in defence. I don't have the answers, but the man who is being paid millions and in charge certainly should.
Victimpool on Sunday. We can standby to get raped by Mane and ****inio. We just don't have a defence that can stand up and be counted.
Rant over!
 
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Flat track bullies. When the going gets tough we are shit. I already know the script for Sunday - they harass us and we shot the bed.

Prove me wrong...... Please!
 
urban genie said:
First half did for us, too weak when defending the advantage, KDB off the boil again. Yaya should have started.

For me we threw it away with our first half tactics and the we are new in this comp doesn't wash anymore.

Dissapointing but second half restored some pride.

only plus point we will have a have weeks rest before the fa cup semi now.
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Or th space for a nice juicy hard fought game against ManUre!!! Don't forget, it has to be as hard as possible for City to do well!
 
The only positive for me was that despite a few mistakes, both Sane and Sterling were still keen to run behind the defence and create opportunities.
They were inconsistent, whilst the rest of the team varied from poor to shite.
 
Didn't read all 79 pages, so forgive me if this has been mentioned...

The game hinged on multiple missed chances, no reaction from the bench when we pulled ahead, and a simple lack of desire to attack the ball from a free kick.

We had Sterling through in the keeper, whose legs are wide open, and he pulls it back to Sergio, who gets it poked away from him.

Sane clean through on the left pulls it back for Sergio, but instead of paying it on, leathers it at him off the ground, so he puts it over.

Sane clean through again, this time not going to give it to Sergio, but tries to go around the keeper instead of under him, through his wide open legs.

And, Sergio gets put through, one on one, on his right peg, and he needs all fucking day to get a shot off, when he could have lifted it so much easier. I think it was a penalty myself, and would have been a foul and yellow card anywhere else on the pitch for a late challenge taking the player out, but the refs in the CL are just as weak on the big decisions (but look strong as fuck in the easy ines, as they stride around, puff out their chest, and hold that yellow card to the heavens! Wankers!). Where was the liner from the first leg who gave the pen???

Anyway, I'm not quite sure when "zonal marking" came into vogue on corners and free kicks, but if you can't organize it, then you simply shouldn't fucking do it! How does the biggest player on the park get a free header with the QF of the CL on the line??? Riddle me that??

And, while I'm asking questions that seem too hard to answer, why are we playing a high line when EVERYONE knows the ball is going to the penalty spot and the keeper isn't going to come for it??? If we are going to play a high line, then a second before it is played in, all start running back towards our own goal, what the fûck is the point! HOLD THE FUCKING LINE, OR STEP UP...don't run back and give everyone but your own keeper a chance to get to the ball!!

There are som simple, back to basics things that need fixing. It is GREAT to have a fast attacking team, but when did we use ANY of those things today? Did we have a single counter attack? When we got the ball and started moving forward, we nearly always checked back, waited for Monaco to get organized, which took them about 1/3 the time it takes us to even get bodies behind the ball, let alone in some form of "organized defence," and started playing it around the back again.

Second leg of a CL game, up by 1 goal and losing on any draw, WITH 15 mins to go, it is IMPERATIVE that you SHORE UP A TIRING MIDFIELD.

Pep should have immediately put Yaya on alongside Fernandinho and told him to stop anything getting past and use his nous to keep the ball, spread it wide and knock it over the top.

He should have taken Aguero off and out Iheanacho on, telling him that if he stopped running in the last 15 minutes, he would get fined two weeks wages and fucked off next season! Oh, and get the ball, take it down the line and hold up play waiting for reinforcements and accept any fouls they are willing to give you.

And he should have brought on Otamendi and taken Clichy off, sliding Kolarov out to the left and adding TWO FUCKING BIG LADS WHO CAN HEAD THE BALL onto the park for the inevitable corners and free kicks.

15 minutes away from "winning" their biggest game of the season, and they STILL couldn't muster the team, the formation (4-5-1), or heart to stop the opposition from scoring on the only attack they seriously had in the last 15 minutes!!

The absolute ONLY thing that can possibly wipe away any of the disgust with the way the team folded is a win against Liverpool, and even that we not do it!
 
Afrenchguy said:
You were arrogant as fuck after first leg when I just came nicely to discuss and follow Man City's results and analysis of their fans.
We knocked you out by caming back from a 2 goal-deficit without Falcao and Glik, you should learn a lesson from that instead keep being a dush.

Yes, i'm a "smug ****" with people like you, cause karma is a bitch :)
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I hope Monaco go on and win it - good team, hard working etc. I also hope however that you personally come up against a big Bayern stormtrooper who gives you a proper German slap '1940 styleee'. I'm so glad I voted out.
 
We was never going to win the thing playing like that! Probably saved us an embarrassment. If we played like that against barca, they're the type of team who would annihilate us!

Carrying too many average players and Sergio isn't consistent enough, a couple of those chances should have been bread and butter for someone like him. What we need to aim for now is a CL spot, rebuild that team in the summer and go from there. I don't feel as gutted as I normally do tbh. They deserved it. There was no game changing refereeing decisions.,Best team won.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Didn't read all 79 pages, so forgive me if this has been mentioned...

The game hinged on multiple missed chances, no reaction from the bench when we pulled ahead, and a simple lack of desire to attack the ball from a free kick.

We had Sterling through in the keeper, whose legs are wide open, and he pulls it back to Sergio, who gets it poked away from him.

Sane clean through on the left pulls it back for Sergio, but instead of paying it on, leathers it at him off the ground, so he puts it over.

Sane clean through again, this time not going to give it to Sergio, but tries to go around the keeper instead of under him, through his wide open legs.

And, Sergio gets put through, one on one, on his right peg, and he needs all fucking day to get a shot off, when he could have lifted it so much easier. I think it was a penalty myself, and would have been a foul and yellow card anywhere else on the pitch for a late challenge taking the player out, but the refs in the CL are just as weak on the big decisions (but look strong as fuck in the easy ines, as they stride around, puff out their chest, and hold that yellow card to the heavens! Wankers!). Where was the liner from the first leg who gave the pen???

Anyway, I'm not quite sure when "zonal marking" came into vogue on corners and free kicks, but if you can't organize it, then you simply shouldn't fucking do it! How does the biggest player on the park get a free header with the QF of the CL on the line??? Riddle me that??

And, while I'm asking questions that seem too hard to answer, why are we playing a high line when EVERYONE knows the ball is going to the penalty spot and the keeper isn't going to come for it??? If we are going to play a high line, then a second before it is played in, all start running back towards our own goal, what the fûck is the point! HOLD THE FUCKING LINE, OR STEP UP...don't run back and give everyone but your own keeper a chance to get to the ball!!

There are som simple, back to basics things that need fixing. It is GREAT to have a fast attacking team, but when did we use ANY of those things today? Did we have a single counter attack? When we got the ball and started moving forward, we nearly always checked back, waited for Monaco to get organized, which took them about 1/3 the time it takes us to even get bodies behind the ball, let alone in some form of "organized defence," and started playing it around the back again.

Second leg of a CL game, up by 1 goal and losing on any draw, WITH 15 mins to go, it is IMPERATIVE that you SHORE UP A TIRING MIDFIELD.

Pep should have immediately put Yaya on alongside Fernandinho and told him to stop anything getting past and use his nous to keep the ball, spread it wide and knock it over the top.

He should have taken Aguero off and out Iheanacho on, telling him that if he stopped running in the last 15 minutes, he would get fined two weeks wages and fucked off next season! Oh, and get the ball, take it down the line and hold up play waiting for reinforcements and accept any fouls they are willing to give you.

And he should have brought on Otamendi and taken Clichy off, sliding Kolarov out to the left and adding TWO FUCKING BIG LADS WHO CAN HEAD THE BALL onto the park for the inevitable corners and free kicks.

15 minutes away from "winning" their biggest game of the season, and they STILL couldn't muster the team, the formation (4-5-1), or heart to stop the opposition from scoring on the only attack they seriously had in the last 15 minutes!!

The absolute ONLY thing that can possibly wipe away any of the disgust with the way the team folded is a win against Liverpool, and even that we not do it!
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All good points made and summed up the naive , insipid way we go about ensuring the easy is made hard and once again too hard for us to muster against a side that will be carved up to shreds in the next round unless they are drawn against Leicester.

Easy opportunity squandered.

Sagna says we will respond on Sunday but lets see as he probably won't be starting himself.

Our defensive frailties where we don't seem to learn to do the basics came home to roost again.

You can actually play to style Pep wants and defend but him saying in the pre match we will have to score to get through was poor and defeatist.

You cannot tell me we couldn't have set up to defend a two goal lead which the likes of Real , Bayern Barca would have done and taken the goals on the counter if they got them.

Time for a clean out come the summer and get in players who know how to win the big games and enough of the smaller ones to get the trophies they crave.
 
On reflection, while disappointed, I am not devastated. Given the age and state of the team, this is probably as far as we were likely to get - the defence was found out, and I don't expect three of the back four to be regulars next season.

The situation at the other end of the pitch is more worrying, because there not going to be a big turnover in personnel. But our inability to convert chances this season has been very expensive.
 
We all know the fullbacks for various reasons are not fit for purpose and that we also need a centre back and a defensive midfielder.

I hope we buy players with an aggressive streak because I`m getting pissed off with seeing this lot trampled under foot every time we play a team who are up for a physical battle. De Bruyne as good as he can be, was last night frightened out of his game in the first half and he wasnt the only one.

Surely its there for all to see, as soon as a team start to press us and are a bit robust we melt. Monaco a, Spurs a, Liverpool a, Leicester a, Everton a.

Liverpool on Sunday wont stand about with the thumb up their arse us and allow us to dance round them. They will pressure ever ball, not giving us a moments breath. We for our part must fight like fuck for every ball and not conceding an inch. Once up a time we had warriors like Milner, a younger Zab, De Jong, Barry, a fit Kompany, Lescott, Bellamy, Tevez. Not all of them had fantastic ability Lescott was very limited but if it was a day for a physical battle he stood up and was counted.

Time to put some backbone into this team. and I dont mean another Lescott
 
Trying to win the champions league with full backs that wenger had ten years ago and a keeper whom wouldn't get in for stoke was always a step to far for pep.

How good was their left back mendy

We need to sign him imho
 
Staggered at Guardiola selection last night. What is the point of picking all those attacking players when there is nobody behind them to win the ball and give it to them? Why was our best ball retainer not selected and not even brought on? Fernandinho was utterly swamped,particularly in that first half. I know Pep likes to be smart but if he really thinks that Kev is an appropriate person to play in Yaya's role then fucking hell. It was like Pellegreni had picked the team last night.
 
bobom said:
On reflection, while disappointed, I am not devastated. Given the age and state of the team, this is probably as far as we were likely to get - the defence was found out, and I don't expect three of the back four to be regulars next season.

The situation at the other end of the pitch is more worrying, because there not going to be a big turnover in personnel. But our inability to convert chances this season has been very expensive.
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Don't be surprised if that was Pep's last straw for Aguero! With that money hey, we should be able to lure two top young strikers, or at least one and a prospect to complement Jesus and Kelechi, and whoever comes up from the EDS or back from being on loan. Plus, we have multiple midfield strikers available.

Need to firm up the spine of the team and get some young legs down the wings.
 
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