More racism in Liverpool?

As others have said, it is the crowd reaction as a whole that is the most disgraceful thing about the whole episode.

It is more than likely that the intial comment will never be proven or will be passed off as "you Manc bastard" (although who really shouts that at Oldham players?). It may even have been that and been misheard. None of us can really say for certain and I would doubt that any Scouser is would be in a rush to drop someone in it if they heard someone shout "you black bastard". (They should do, but that is the 'don't grass' warped mentality of many - especially football fans - about 'their own')

The more disgraceful aspect, that can be proven, is that the crowds response is to chant the name of a player who was not on the pitch but is in the middle of a race storm.

There is no excuse for that.

No doubt they are already claiming that this was a coincidence and those chanting didn't even realise what was going on. No-one will buy that though.

The attitude that brings the crowd to do that has been fostered and encouraged by LFC and Kenny Dalglish over recent weeks and is inexcusable.

Perhaps the likes of Dalglish will now realise what he has done after seeing 'his' crowd respond like that. I honestly don't think he will though because he comes across as a totally selfish bastard whose every action is determined purely by self interest and trying to get results for his (under performing) team.
 
are their fans that stupid ? i mean c`mon is there a policy of no class on the Kop?

where are the decent fans? that is disgusting i hope the club get punished, there is no room this sort of muck anymore.
 
What the scousers don't get is that racism is racism. They know its wrong but cant be wrong in this instance (suarez) as he is hero worshipped and has been supported by kenny. The fact is the whole 'suarez is not a racist' is a joke as they have applied their own logic, just because you wish the outcome to be different you refuse to acknowledge the outcome unless it matches what you think should of happened. BTW Everton is the most blatantly openly racism ground i have been to in recent years
 
Liverpool fans were very very quiet the Etihad for the League game. Don't think they will be any different for the semi-final
 
roytoncity said:
What the scousers don't get is that racism is racism. They know its wrong but cant be wrong in this instance (suarez) as he is hero worshipped and has been supported by kenny. The fact is the whole 'suarez is not a racist' is a joke as they have applied their own logic, just because you wish the outcome to be different you refuse to acknowledge the outcome unless it matches what you think should of happened. BTW Everton is the most blatantly openly racism ground i have been to in recent years
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I certainly remember their 'Everton are White' chant (to 'Hello I'm back again'- we sing 'City are back, City are back') when they had no black players in the 80's. This always sticks in the mind and recent incidents confirm that Liverpool as a city is still stuck in it's inglorious past.
 
dazdon said:
I think the issue here has more to do with the hundreds of fans singing the Suarez song whilst this was going on.
Ok a few mindless idiots started it and they will most certainly be dealt with but the chanting after and during the incident compounded the problems within the club and indeed the city.
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This is it exactly. With any 'scandal' it is not so much the initial offence as the excuses, denial and cover-up that do the damage. If Liverpool FC had come straight out and immediately done what they were always going to have to do then that Suarez affair would have been put to bed by now.

So, will Suarez now condemn the singing of his name during that incident?
 
Blue>Red said:
disgrace, is it me or has there been an underreaction to this in the media?
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don't think so, give it time

most football journalists maybe do not prepare for late night write ups on friday nights, I'm sure there will be plenty in sunday's and monday's.

This will get plenty of attention, given the timing, and the disgusting approach by the dipper fans (singing that suarez song). People may also say that Adeyemi should not have reacted, but I am glad he did really, for too long has racism not been confronted, instead just ignored or brushed under the carpet
 
Ducado said:
strongbowholic said:
In all my years of watching City, Liverpool have not had a reputation for racism. It is only fairly recently with the emergence of additional teams, including ourselves and the rag's dominance of the league that their fans have become hysterical.

Liverpool fans (hooliganism aside) have generally been fair minded. In fact I can remember a bottle being launched at Joe Corrigan and the the Kop chanting "get the bastard out, get the bastard out" and a number of their fans forcibly handing the culprit over to the police.

I am hugely surprised this has happened and in spite of my better instincts, I can well believe the people involved are not really Liverpool fans. In fact given the rags' propensity for bitterness (anyone remember their knobs going on Napoli forums to stir up trouble?) it's not beyond the realms of possibility they wouldn't pull a stunt like that.

However, there needs to be a full investigation to establish what happened and who did it. Then the full weight of the FA and the Police must fall on the the club and the perpetrators for this absolutely set of horrible and despicable events.

Heart goes out to the Oldham who should never have to experience this kind of disgusting bullshit.
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So lets get this straight a United fan or fans would infiltrate a Liverpool game risk arrest and criminal charge and being banned from every ground for a number of years just to show up Liverpool? I think you are taking paranoia to a new level there, the mind really does boggle at level of paranoia displayed by some posters on here
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FFS I didnt say anything !!
 
I believe the way many Liverpool fans are acting in relation to this is akin to how many Germans, who did not support Hitler, acted in the early days of Nazi Germany.

There has to be significantly more who are uncomfortable about this than is being vocalised. However such is the strength of feeling among what appears to be the prevailing and vocal majority that no-one else dare say anything for fear of being called wrong, stupid or subversive. They must consider it not worth the grief or hassle to say anything different.

I say this because I have always considered Liverpool fans to be deluded, but ultimately fair minded, and I refuse to believe that almost to a man they think that their club and Suarez are not in the wrong in relation to this.

From a City point of view it is probably quite good. Liverpool should not take their status as a 'big' club for granted. We did in the early 80's and look where that got us. Football empires have fallen on lesser things that what Liverpool are currently going through and when you add into the mix a dilapidated stadium and no realistic prospect of challenging for the title in the next decade then you have a cocktail which could easily conspire to condemn LFC to relative obscurity.

Would I welcome that? I have genuinely mixed feelings. I always want what's best for City, but there would always be a small part of me that was sad that a once great club, who kept utd in their place for many years, had allowed someone (who knew exactly what he was doing) calling another player a 'negro' to overshadow much of what had gone on before.

That said, I've lost count of the number of times I saw them knock 4 or 5 past us at Maine Road, so I'm sure I'll get over it...
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I believe the way many Liverpool fans are acting in relation to this is akin to how many Germans, who did not support Hitler, acted in the early days of Nazi Germany.

There has to be significantly more who are uncomfortable about this than is being vocalised. However such is the strength of feeling among what appears to be the prevailing and vocal majority that no-one else dare say anything for fear of being called wrong, stupid or subversive. They must consider it not worth the grief or hassle to say anything different.

I say this because I have always considered Liverpool fans to be deluded, but ultimately fair minded, and I refuse to believe that almost to a man they think that their club and Suarez are not in the wrong in relation to this.

From a City point of view it is probably quite good. Liverpool should not take their status as a 'big' club for granted. We did in the early 80's and look where that got us. Football empires have fallen on lesser things that what Liverpool are currently going through and when you add into the mix a dilapidated stadium and no realistic prospect of challenging for the title in the next decade then you have a cocktail which could easily conspire to condemn LFC to relative obscurity.

Would I welcome that? I have genuinely mixed feelings. I always want what's best for City, but there would always be a small part of me that was sad that a once great club, who kept utd in their place for many years, had allowed someone (who knew exactly what he was doing) calling another player a 'negro' to overshadow much of what had gone on before.

That said, I've lost count of the number of times I saw them knock 4 or 5 past us at Maine Road, so I'm sure I'll get over it...
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Great Post
 
strongbowholic said:
In all my years of watching City, Liverpool have not had a reputation for racism. It is only fairly recently with the emergence of additional teams, including ourselves and the rag's dominance of the league that their fans have become hysterical.

Liverpool fans (hooliganism aside) have generally been fair minded. In fact I can remember a bottle being launched at Joe Corrigan and the the Kop chanting "get the bastard out, get the bastard out" and a number of their fans forcibly handing the culprit over to the police.

I am hugely surprised this has happened and in spite of my better instincts, I can well believe the people involved are not really Liverpool fans. In fact given the rags' propensity for bitterness (anyone remember their knobs going on Napoli forums to stir up trouble?) it's not beyond the realms of possibility they wouldn't pull a stunt like that.

However, there needs to be a full investigation to establish what happened and who did it. Then the full weight of the FA and the Police must fall on the the club and the perpetrators for this absolutely set of horrible and despicable events.

Heart goes out to the Oldham who should never have to experience this kind of disgusting bullshit.
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I was at the game when Corrigan was hit by the whisky bottle and no way was the twat who chucked it forced into police hands all i saw was a load of scouse wankers pointing all over the kop.Never liked the place its a shithole. (going back for semi final though want to be there when we get our own back for 81)
 
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