Morrissey - The Falkland Islands belong to Argentina

BlueRob01 said:
TCIB said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Why do they ''belong'' to Britain?


Because we fought and died for them and won. The same way land disputes have been settled since forever.


Doesn't make it right though surely? In the Falklands or anywhere.


Well it does though as it has been the accepted way since civilized society formed and before that.

It may offend some peoples ideals and sensibilities but thats just tough luck really.

You have seen pacific salmon swimming back up the river to lay eggs right ?. Now at the top of all the waterfalls, you see the biggest bear in the best spot.
Why ?, because he fought for it and he wanted it more.
It is the same principle really, our people wanted it more.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Why does Northern Ireland belong to Great Britain? (which is what I guess Morrissey is really relating to the Argentinians)

Because "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" wouldn't make any sense otherwise would it? ;-)

The will of the local people is what Northern Ireland and The Falklands have in common.
As a footnote, I have always said partition in 1921 was a mistake, but we have to take the world as we find it in many instances - for better or worse - and this is one of those occasions.

So..... you invade a country, install lots of ''your people'' to live and work there (and make sure you don't employ any indigenous people), so much so that over time, ''your people'' become the majority and then everything else you do in that land is alright to do so, because the majority go along with it! Great!

Have you ever studied History? If you have you will find that's the way things go
 
Ducado said:
BlueRob01 said:
Gelsons Dad said:
Because we were the first nation to settle there. Before Argentina even existed. We did not conquer any indigenous population and there is no evidence of any earlier settlements.

Now this may be a radical idea I know, but if anybody there wants to remain British they can.
Come and live in an island called Britain.
Simple.

Eh? So by that logic anyone who wants to remain Irish, Scottish, Indian etc, should move back to there own place of origin, to be fair I don't think you have really thought this through have you?
Thought? Think you may be asking too much
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Why does Northern Ireland belong to Great Britain? (which is what I guess Morrissey is really relating to the Argentinians)

Because "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" wouldn't make any sense otherwise would it? ;-)

The will of the local people is what Northern Ireland and The Falklands have in common.
As a footnote, I have always said partition in 1921 was a mistake, but we have to take the world as we find it in many instances - for better or worse - and this is one of those occasions.

So..... you invade a country, install lots of ''your people'' to live and work there (and make sure you don't employ any indigenous people), so much so that over time, ''your people'' become the majority and then everything else you do in that land is alright to do so, because the majority go along with it! Great!
How do you "invade" a country with no inhabitants? When the country that now claims them didn't even fucking exist at the time?
 
Typical Morrissey really, he was an opinionated gobshite in the 80s and he's still an opinionated gobshite now.
He's as cynical as they come, talks out of his arse to get a bit of publicity and his fans lap it up.
 
BlueRob01 said:
Gelsons Dad said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Why do they ''belong'' to Britain?

Because we were the first nation to settle there. Before Argentina even existed. We did not conquer any indigenous population and there is no evidence of any earlier settlements.

Now this may be a radical idea I know, but if anybody there wants to remain British they can.
Come and live in an island called Britain.
Simple.

They don't want to.
Because they have always live in the Falklands. They are Falkland Islanders.
Unlike Morrissey, I've been there many many times and met many many Falkland Islanders. I also have a reasonable understanding of the history of the place and the feelings of the Islanders.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Why does Northern Ireland belong to Great Britain? (which is what I guess Morrissey is really relating to the Argentinians)

Because "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" wouldn't make any sense otherwise would it? ;-)

The will of the local people is what Northern Ireland and The Falklands have in common.
As a footnote, I have always said partition in 1921 was a mistake, but we have to take the world as we find it in many instances - for better or worse - and this is one of those occasions.

So..... you invade a country, install lots of ''your people'' to live and work there (and make sure you don't employ any indigenous people), so much so that over time, ''your people'' become the majority and then everything else you do in that land is alright to do so, because the majority go along with it! Great!

I thought I had made my feelings on partition clear, but that does not seem to have filtered through for some reason.

What would your solution be to Northern Ireland and The Falklands? Based on your previous posts I bet they both end in Guerilla war and mass bloodshed.
 

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