Motormouth Hopkins been sacked ?

[The Silver Surfer]

I think it's fair to say you're having a bit of a 'mare on this thread. Fucking hell, I never agree with stoner on anything so if me and him are in agreement on this occasion then you must be doing something wrong.

This is getting boring now.

So, because two people who never agree with each other happen on one occasion actually agree, you think the person they disagree with is having a "mare"?

That's pathetic.
Thats seriously your best argument to my responses?

Oh dear.

Loves Hopkins?
Where do I say anything remotely along the lines of thinking she's wonderful or any such thing?

HERE

I don't see what the problem is with her.

I was defending her freedom of speech and saying she is right to demand more action.

Don't be daft, we're talking about what she got sacked for not everything about her, look at the title of the thread.

Blames all Muslims?
Do i?
Where?

HERE.

Even the media don't say Islamic Terrorists anymore (they just say "we must get rid of this evil) because Muslims starts crying about being made the scape goat when the common denominator in these attacks is.. ISLAM!
And they don't even try hard enough to sort their own house out with Jihadi's walking in and out of their Mosques and pedophile rape gangs operating all over.

Saying that their religion is the common denominator and that they need to do more to condone these attacks and take more action themselves?
That's just common sense surely?

That's not blaming all Muslims !!! I'm stating that there are sensitive Muslims who take offense because some people say Islam is to blame! Its not the fault of those associated with cheese farmers is it!!

RWNJ ?
I had to google that.
I remember seeing that a few weeks ago and was shocked at the reactions of the Muslims which people have agreed is pretty disgusting.
It got posted on social media, I had no idea who Britain First were until someone pointed it out.
Count me guilty for not investigating their organisation if it makes you feel better.

If you're gonna go to the trouble of posting a video to make a point then surely you'd check out the veracity of your source?

OK fair point. But I don't think i'm the only person who posts videos without investigating its background first.
And it still makes a point.
And it still doesn't make me a right wing nut job.

So from your logic:
If anyone agrees with someone elses view on a certain topic they love them.
If anyone points out where there is a problem they really means they hate everyone associated with where the problem is.
If anyone posts any video they are showing their true colours because it must mean they should be associated with it without question.

I hope you don't agree with Gary Neville's opinion that City are a problem to utd and can understand his point when he uses video evidence.
That would make you devoted to Gary and a fully paid up member of MUFC Ultras.

Which of course you are not.

Certainly not, no lol

 

[Blue Llama]

Whilst the IRA had many catholics in its ranks there were many who might have been baptised into the faith but were then basically atheist. Many Catholics were opposed to the IRA's tactics. Would it have been appropriate to say this was all a catholic problem and they should have done more to stop the terrorists?

 

[blueonblue]

To be honest mate i'm at a loss as to what's the fucks going on in that video?

The guy simply stood there with the sign that said "The right to openly discuss ideas must be defended", the f*cking irony of the bunch of morons gathering around him screaming "Nazi scum" is the answer to what is the biggest threat to society today.

Its no good pointing out the very definition of a "Nazi" is to oppose free speech, nor was he making any statement for or against whatever the fu*k those arse clowns had their collective knickers in a twist about, it was simply he did not want someone else deciding what is "Good" or "Bad" without being able to hear the arguments.

We are constantly being told a pack of lies by both the media and by politicians, if we allow censorship by mob then society is doomed.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

Whilst the IRA had many catholics in its ranks there were many who might have been baptised into the faith but were then basically atheist. Many Catholics were opposed to the IRA's tactics. Would it have been appropriate to say this was all a catholic problem and they should have done more to stop the terrorists?

It's arguable that blaming the moderates is counter productive because it's better if they were onside and not always on the defensive. But I know people who I argue with constantly who pigeon hole people because of their political beliefs or where they live.
For instance blaming the Jews as a whole for their control of power and the money market or the Americans for well-just being American and of course lumping just these two demographics into a huge homogeneous sector tends to come from the vocal left side of the spectrum as does the love of Russia etc. You also see over riding support for Palestine on lefty marches and the Palestinian flag has become what is in effect as trendy as a Nelson Mandela tee shirt amongst the middle class socialist career protesters.
I however don't have those hang ups about people because I honestly believe people are people and everyone is geared differently, the right side of politics have a hang up about Muslims in general but that hang up is no worse than the lefts attacks on the people I mentioned above.

 

[blueonblue]

I however don't have those hang ups about people because I honestly believe people are people and everyone is geared differently, the right side of politics have a hang up about Muslims in general but that hang up is no worse than the lefts attacks on the people I mentioned above.

Until we get the f*cking media and gutless politicians to differentiate between Muslims and Islamist's these problems will not only continue but get worse, its fair to say the bible is every bit as rabid as the Koran if taken literally, but the Christian churches came out of the stone ages a long time ago and does not teach blind obedience to what is simply a book.

Your right when you say people are just people, but the things they are taught and believe shape the way they see the world, and the truth is that many British mosques are importing imams from places where they still shit in the street, they host clerics that spout such bile that if you or I expressed those views in public we would be eating porridge for a long time.

If you give militant Islamism a place to gather it will breed militant Islamist's, the answer is to vet and stop any of these nutty c*nts coming, make all sermons be given only in English, and for those who claim they can not speak the language tell them to learn or f*ck off.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Whilst the IRA had many catholics in its ranks there were many who might have been baptised into the faith but were then basically atheist. Many Catholics were opposed to the IRA's tactics. Would it have been appropriate to say this was all a catholic problem and they should have done more to stop the terrorists?

No it wouldn't be appropriate to say it was a catholic problem, because the IRA never maimed/tortured/murdered
in the name of whichever Pope was in the Vatican. The Irish republic, probably 95% catholic, (I haven't checked the exact number).
proscribed the IRA, had more of its members in jail than we did, and actively denounced them. The English, well this one in particular,
apart from the usual tiny percentage of nutters you get anywhere, also didn't attribute IRA atrocities to catholics, it was their campaign of murder to enforce
their will on an unwilling populace that earned them justifiable censure.

 

[Blue Llama]

No it wouldn't be appropriate to say it was a catholic problem, because the IRA never maimed/tortured/murdered
in the name of whichever Pope was in the Vatican. The Irish republic, probably 95% catholic, (I haven't checked the exact number).
proscribed the IRA, had more of its members in jail than we did, and actively denounced them. The English, well this one in particular,
apart from the usual tiny percentage of nutters you get anywhere, also didn't attribute IRA atrocities to catholics, it was their campaign of murder to enforce
their will on an unwilling populace that earned them justifiable censure.

My point remains would you treat all Muslims as potential terrorists? Or would you accept as you stated that the IRA were formed by a tiny minority of catholics and the same applies to our current terrorist issues but with a tiny minority of Muslims

 

[Ancient Citizen]

My point remains would you treat all Muslims as potential terrorists? Or would you accept as you stated that the IRA were formed by a tiny minority of catholics and the same applies to our current terrorist issues but with a tiny minority of Muslims

You are trying to infer that the IRA's conduct was driven on religious grounds,it wasn't. The IRA are small terrorist group, Islamic groups are worldwide, and no, I wouldn't great all Muslims as terrorists, potential or otherwise.

 

[PinkFinal]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muslim-knocked-unconscious-thugs-before-10684352

A Muslim dad-of-three was knocked out by thugs before racist graffiti was daubed on his walls quoting a controversial Katie Hopkins tweet.


The 42-year-old victim, who wished to remain anonymous, was attacked from behind in his own home in Heckmondwike, Kirklees, West Yorks, while drilling a broken bathroom door handle.


Intruders struck him from behind with an unknown object on Wednesday morning which left him briefly unconscious, the Huddersfield Daily Examiner reported.


When he awoke, he found racist graffiti daubed on his walls which included "we need a final solution" - a phrase controversially tweeted by Katie Hopkins in the wake of the Manchester terror attack.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I was amazed that she wasn't at least questioned about incitement to violence for that tweet. And now we have the violence to prove the point.