Mourinho or Mancini

coleridge said:
C'mon mate. Any sane person would explore all the options when they felt that their job was under threat. So, yes, you are against Mancini, quite pathologically so, but that's up to you, our kid. ;)

He had a year left on his contract, which meant even if he was sacked he would get a year's pay. At four or five million quid or whatever that would've been, ample time to explore his options if he were indeed sacked. And there's a big difference between exploring your options, and negotiating a contract. Fuck, he'd negotiated where he was going to park his yacht. Then crowing about it in a fucking press conference and volunteering that he in fact had six or seven "situations".

Yeah, like I said. Crass and classless and certainly not showing even a modicum of respect to Sheikh Mansour and the people who gave him hundreds of millions to buy whatever players he wanted for two years running.
 
the thing i worry about with Guardiola is can he handle stress? 5 years at the greatest team in the world at the moment and walks away and takes a "year out" ... could he handle the high stress and pressure that the Premier League and the English Media creates?

If Mouninho leave Madrid, I think Real would try and prise Wenger away, best time for a guy they have always wanted. Wenger might think now is a good time to leave Arsenal.

That would leave Arsenal .. think would suit Guardiola, time, peace and less stress from the board cos they arent that bothered if they win or not.

Where does Mourniho go? City, Chelsea, PSG?

I'd prefer Mourinho, to push us on the next step. But i do like the Dortmund, Herr Klopp or something ... looks like he gets the best from players having a personal touch with, done superb with Dortmund, only question is he one, more for the future .. maybe after Mourinho?
 
Ragnarok said:
There is NO chance that Mancini will go this summer barring a complete disaster in the remainder of the season. The Sheikh doesnt work like that. Barring the CL exits, everything else is going according to plan. In case of PL, it was even achieved earlier than planned. Mancini will be given one more season at the least, of that there is no doubt.

And so he should,this idea he was touting himself round Europe is probably bollocks.
Would say as a successful manager,he probably had lots of offers,i would be amazed if he,or any other manager,including the egomaniac,wouldn,t listen to offers.
 
I'll be Bobby for the purpose of this debate.

First, I was under pressure and so needed to look at other jobs.

I might have done a deal on my remaining contract as being out of job for the start of next season would harm my career forever.

HRH Sheikh Mansour didn't penalise me for being honest in a press conference as we are an honourable club.

And you say...
 
The Future's Blue said:
Some really good debate has broken out and it's been a pleasure to read.

Thanks to all involved.

Credit to Ducado for saying one thing that we all understood. Now I'm teacher's pet, at last!
 
coleridge said:
I'll be Bobby for the purpose of this debate.

First, I was under pressure and so needed to look at other jobs.

I might have done a deal on my remaining contract as being out of job for the start of next season would harm my career forever.

HRH Sheikh Mansour didn't penalise me for being honest in a press conference as we are an honourable club.

And you say...

I say. No problem. There's a reason the cheque book was closed for as long and as firmly as it was last summer, just as it no doubt will be this January. And it ain't because HRH has run out of Barclays play money ... :)
 
BillyShears said:
coleridge said:
C'mon mate. Any sane person would explore all the options when they felt that their job was under threat. So, yes, you are against Mancini, quite pathologically so, but that's up to you, our kid. ;)

He had a year left on his contract, which meant even if he was sacked he would get a year's pay. At four or five million quid or whatever that would've been, ample time to explore his options if he were indeed sacked. And there's a big difference between exploring your options, and negotiating a contract. Fuck, he'd negotiated where he was going to park his yacht. Then crowing about it in a fucking press conference and volunteering that he in fact had six or seven "situations".

Yeah, like I said. Crass and classless and certainly not showing even a modicum of respect to Sheikh Mansour and the people who gave him hundreds of millions to buy whatever players he wanted for two years running.
That has really got under your skin, hasn't it billy? Hasn't bothered me as much as you because I know city were doing the same. For me, when that info went public, it changed things In that it killed stone dead the sentiment amongst our fanbase, which was rife last year and you can still see remnants of, that Mancini is the sheikh's main man and has a job for life. It illustrated to the world that Mancini is a manager who is expected to yield big returns on adug's investment. Tolm's point is interesting too in that we were top of the league when he started the dialogue. Why was that? this was the same time there were rumours (a certain young italian being one of the sources) that he wanted to leave because of his father's illness. The Russia thing appeared to me slightly different in that it was used as leverage to negotiate elements of his new contract. To me, that was likely to be differences of opinions on severance details and target relatedbonuses rather than contact length and money, which should be easy to negotiate. He ultimately signed a new deal of course.

All in all I think this is going to be one of the most interesting summers ever for European management change. There could be five or six of the biggest jobs in the world available, and clubs competing for big signatures, and we could well be one of them.
 
BillyShears said:
I say. No problem. There's a reason the cheque book was closed for as long and as firmly as it was last summer, just as it no doubt will be this January. And it ain't because HRH has run out of Barclays play money ... :)
Mm..if it's true that we didn't spend on Hazard and RVP for the reasons you're suggesting, then the senior management of our club are out of their trees.
 
BillyShears said:
coleridge said:
I'll be Bobby for the purpose of this debate.

First, I was under pressure and so needed to look at other jobs.

I might have done a deal on my remaining contract as being out of job for the start of next season would harm my career forever.

HRH Sheikh Mansour didn't penalise me for being honest in a press conference as we are an honourable club.

And you say...

I say. No problem. There's a reason the cheque book was closed for as long and as firmly as it was last summer, just as it no doubt will be this January. And it ain't because HRH has run out of Barclays play money ... :)

Fine Mr Khaldoon, but what is the reason that you refer to?
 

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