Mourinho or Mancini

Braggster said:
BillyShears said:
I say. No problem. There's a reason the cheque book was closed for as long and as firmly as it was last summer, just as it no doubt will be this January. And it ain't because HRH has run out of Barclays play money ... :)
Mm..if it's true that we didn't spend on Hazard and RVP for the reasons you're suggesting, then the senior management of our club are out of their trees.
...or they have a long term game plan ;-)
 
I don't get that

If the owners aren't happy with Mancini and did not have confidence with giving him money to invest in the team, why did they extend his contract. If they were that unhappy they'd change manager, or at the very least let his old contract unwind unrenewed.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Braggster said:
BillyShears said:
I say. No problem. There's a reason the cheque book was closed for as long and as firmly as it was last summer, just as it no doubt will be this January. And it ain't because HRH has run out of Barclays play money ... :)
Mm..if it's true that we didn't spend on Hazard and RVP for the reasons you're suggesting, then the senior management of our club are out of their trees.
...or they have a long term game plan ;-)
Well, if that game plan includes allowing two of the best talents on the market to go to our two biggest direct rivals (one of said talents then basically handing the league to our absolute biggest rivals), while giving the manager they don't trust a five year contract with a hand tied behind his back, I suggest they get a new long term game plan. If they don't trust him, they shouldn't have given him the contract, they should have sacked him.

As I said, if that is the reason they must be out of their trees.
 
Marvin said:
I don't get that

If the owners aren't happy with Mancini and did not have confidence with giving him money to invest in the team, why did they extend his contract. If they were that unhappy they'd change manager, or at the very least let his old contract unwind unrenewed.

Very good question.
 
Marvin said:
I don't get that

If the owners aren't happy with Mancini and did not have confidence with giving him money to invest in the team, why did they extend his contract. If they were that unhappy they'd change manager, or at the very least let his old contract unwind unrenewed.


Or give him an extension of two or three years instead of a big fat five year contract.
 
MSP said:
I don't think he ever managed to make City squad to be more that sum of it's parts.
I disagree. Last season I thought that United had a better squad than us, or should I say higher quality players the deeper into their squad you went. Our centre half cover was Savic and Kolo, and our wide options were Johnson; whereas United had Evans Smalling Jones and even played Carrick at CB a few times, and Valencia Young Nani Park and Giggs who could play wide. We had a stronger central midfield depth but the rest were even.

With that, we beat them to the title. To me that shows a manager who made his squad greater than the sum of its parts.
 
joe mancini said:
Marvin said:
I don't get that

If the owners aren't happy with Mancini and did not have confidence with giving him money to invest in the team, why did they extend his contract. If they were that unhappy they'd change manager, or at the very least let his old contract unwind unrenewed.

Very good question.

I humbly suggest that the players you speak of wanted more cash from City as they desired, in reality, to go to the clubs that they are now at. ADUG [serious money people] immediately moved on with Bobby and got what they could. Why is that so difficult to believe?
 
Caveman said:
MSP said:
I don't think he ever managed to make City squad to be more that sum of it's parts.
I disagree. Last season I thought that United had a better squad than us, or should I say higher quality players the deeper into their squad you went. Our centre half cover was Savic and Kolo, and our wide options were Johnson; whereas United had Evans Smalling Jones and even played Carrick at CB a few times, and Valencia Young Nani Park and Giggs who could play wide. We had a stronger central midfield depth but the rest were even.

With that, we beat them to the title. To me that shows a manager who made his squad greater than the sum of its parts.
But how many parts are scholes and giggs made from?
 
coleridge said:
joe mancini said:
Marvin said:
I don't get that

If the owners aren't happy with Mancini and did not have confidence with giving him money to invest in the team, why did they extend his contract. If they were that unhappy they'd change manager, or at the very least let his old contract unwind unrenewed.

Very good question.

I humbly suggest that the players you speak of wanted more cash from City as they desired, in reality, to go to the clubs that they are now at. ADUG [serious money people] immediately moved on with Bobby and got what they could. Why is that so difficult to believe?

That doesn,t answer the question bud.
 
Marvin said:
I don't get that

If the owners aren't happy with Mancini and did not have confidence with giving him money to invest in the team, why did they extend his contract. If they were that unhappy they'd change manager, or at the very least let his old contract unwind unrenewed.
I don't get it neither.

It also completely ignores the fact we actually did try to sign players, players who went to clubs in world leading cities. One of those clubs being the Champions League winners, the other offering money that even we wouldn't offer. Then another player wanted to stay with the club he's loved all his life - top man, I respect him for that, I'd do that myself. Then another club has just recently said they turned down £45m that we offered for their striker last Summer (how true that is I don't know).

But we offered clubs money, we wanted to sign players, and they didn't want to come or their clubs didn't want to sell.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:12 pm --<br /><br />
andyhinch said:
Caveman said:
MSP said:
I don't think he ever managed to make City squad to be more that sum of it's parts.
I disagree. Last season I thought that United had a better squad than us, or should I say higher quality players the deeper into their squad you went. Our centre half cover was Savic and Kolo, and our wide options were Johnson; whereas United had Evans Smalling Jones and even played Carrick at CB a few times, and Valencia Young Nani Park and Giggs who could play wide. We had a stronger central midfield depth but the rest were even.

With that, we beat them to the title. To me that shows a manager who made his squad greater than the sum of its parts.
But how many parts are scholes and giggs made from?
Haha. But for all their years and WD40 on their joints, whether it be the odd cameo appearance here and there, they still add to what United have. Look at that pass from Giggs to van Persie at the weekend; I doubt there's many others in United's squad who'd put that kind of quality pass through (and the other one would be Scholes).
 

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