Mourinho or Mancini

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Is Someone having a civil war on his hands? Captains acting like *****.

Load of bollocks.

So its the players fault
Of course that old chesnut
Nothing to do with jose then?

Pull the other one. You blatantly done a sluralex and contradicted yourself. United good Starr used as a reason yet you and the other clueless knock Real for trailing Barca. Ycnmiu.

How many captains don't celebrate winning goals that save the game in a CL key game?
How many captains square up to managers?
How many refuse captains armband on field?

Jose is having a war vs the greatest team of an era/ever and a war with some players. Nightmare scenario for any manager.

Jose is also trailing atletico can you explain that?
He's the manager he takes the wrap,thats how it works.

 

[NipHolmes]

Could have something to do with the rags having their 2nd best ever start to a season too

Yet you chastise Jose and Real for trailing Barca whom are on a godly run of form.

Hypocrisy right there.

People should stop being so sentimental. Mancini is doing a job and so far he's failed one objective (CL ko stages) and is failing another at the moment (win the league).

If he fails both and is sacked then rightly so. With the squad he has he had no complaints. If the owners see fit to appoint one of the two most revered coaches in football then credit to them, they've seen us right so far and will continue to do so.

Forza....City!

As my other post stated athletico are also outplaying jose's team..

Who won the derby then?

 

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Yet you chastise Jose and Real for trailing Barca whom are on a godly run of form.

Hypocrisy right there.

People should stop being so sentimental. Mancini is doing a job and so far he's failed one objective (CL ko stages) and is failing another at the moment (win the league).

If he fails both and is sacked then rightly so. With the squad he has he had no complaints. If the owners see fit to appoint one of the two most revered coaches in football then credit to them, they've seen us right so far and will continue to do so.

Forza....City!

As my other post stated athletico are also outplaying jose's team..

Who won the derby then?

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

 

[Anonymous]

As my other post stated athletico are also outplaying jose's team..

Who won the derby then?

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

You're doing exactly what you're accusing NH of doing. You're saying it's all Mourinho's fault as you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid. If you want others to be objective you should try being the same way ... ;)

 

[NipHolmes]

So its the players fault
Of course that old chesnut
Nothing to do with jose then?

Pull the other one. You blatantly done a sluralex and contradicted yourself. United good Starr used as a reason yet you and the other clueless knock Real for trailing Barca. Ycnmiu.

How many captains don't celebrate winning goals that save the game in a CL key game?
How many captains square up to managers?
How many refuse captains armband on field?

Jose is having a war vs the greatest team of an era/ever and a war with some players. Nightmare scenario for any manager.

Jose is also trailing atletico can you explain that?
He's the manager he takes the wrap,thats how it works.

Did you read the above?

We finished below Ajax whom we got one point from and were whipping boys fo Real and Dortmund. Mancini should take the wrap then.

When all is said and done and Mancini and Jose are on paper as options for job vabcancy for top clubs around the globe it will be safe to say Jose will lead him for contention. People can um and ar but that's the way it is. There's a reason people clamour for Jose, there's a reason he's got a full trophy cabinet and there's a reason why I'm arguing his bloody case.

Blinkered some folk.<br /><br />-- Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:01 pm --<br /><br />

As my other post stated athletico are also outplaying jose's team..

Who won the derby then?

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

I'll lay 100 to charity that Real beat Athletico come end of season. You up for it?

Read what I have written and absorb then come back. You're one dimensional when it comes to debate. Hypocritical and blinkered.

 

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Who won the derby then?

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

You're doing exactly what you're accusing NH of doing. You're saying it's all Mourinho's fault as you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid. If you want others to be objective you should try being the same way ... ;)

Ive said he has to be accountable for madrids poor showing in the league,which you agreed on,others on here are not having it and are blaming casilas,ramos etc etc
Where have i said bobby shouldnt be blamed for some of our poor showings,he,s the manager he should take the flack when things dont go to plan..


Edit

Give me atletico + 12 points and i'll have the bet.

 

[Anonymous]

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

You're doing exactly what you're accusing NH of doing. You're saying it's all Mourinho's fault as you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid. If you want others to be objective you should try being the same way ... ;)

Ive said he has to be accountable for madrids poor showing in the league,which you agreed on,others on here are not having it and are blaming casilas,ramos etc etc
Where have i said bobby shouldnt be blamed for some of our poor showings,he,s the manager he should take the flack when things dont go to plan..

I said nothing about Mancini. I'm saying, if you don't acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid you can't very well accuse someone else of not being objective in a discussion, which is what you're doing when you say "Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything". Also calling Mourinho like that makes you sound 8 years old and does the credibility of your argument no favours!

 

[NipHolmes]

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

You're doing exactly what you're accusing NH of doing. You're saying it's all Mourinho's fault as you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid. If you want others to be objective you should try being the same way ... ;)

Ive said he has to be accountable for madrids poor showing in the league,which you agreed on,others on here are not having it and are blaming casilas,ramos etc etc
Where have i said bobby shouldnt be blamed for some of our poor showings,he,s the manager he should take the flack when things dont go to plan..

Ok I'm gonna use some examples of player power.

AVB, he inherited a squad he was told to lower the age of and bring in fresh faces who are younger and will lower wage bill. He dod what owner asked but wad undermined by key players and was subsequently sacked. That team miraculously regrouped and won a double. The reason is because the new manager was accepted and played for.

Real battered Barca last year and set new records. Now the team has gone to shit because players are revolting and the camps in diasarray.

You say trailing Athletico like its some substandard outfit. Please see what they have done for last few years. That teams playing for manager and Real aren't. Simple as that.

If Mancini had Kompany asking like Casillas I'd be equally as sympathetic and would chastise Kompany. It's a sad sight to see, no matter what team.

 

[NipHolmes]

They are outplaying them over the season
Fuck me can Mr mooo not be accountable for anything

You're doing exactly what you're accusing NH of doing. You're saying it's all Mourinho's fault as you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid. If you want others to be objective you should try being the same way ... ;)

Ive said he has to be accountable for madrids poor showing in the league,which you agreed on,others on here are not having it and are blaming casilas,ramos etc etc
Where have i said bobby shouldnt be blamed for some of our poor showings,he,s the manager he should take the flack when things dont go to plan..


Edit

Give me atletico + 12 points and i'll have the bet.

The players are the fault that's why.

No I give you fuck all. If Real are so bad why you need a head start. You frightened Jose will set the record straight?

Not being a tosser to you btw, just sick of blinkered fans. I love our club, I truly love it. I want the best for it, I want ti win for years to come and want us to conquer the United lot. Imho we need a new manager to achieve this. Pep is the man, the Jose if not

I want uniformity from academy up in playing style.
I want to lower wage bill.
Less reliance on a certain few.
An outing in Europe every season or at least 4/5 seasons.

Mancini doesn't give me confidence in any of the few above. I say this as a blue with the best intentions for all us blues.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

You're doing exactly what you're accusing NH of doing. You're saying it's all Mourinho's fault as you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the cultural problems at Madrid. If you want others to be objective you should try being the same way ... ;)

Ive said he has to be accountable for madrids poor showing in the league,which you agreed on,others on here are not having it and are blaming casilas,ramos etc etc
Where have i said bobby shouldnt be blamed for some of our poor showings,he,s the manager he should take the flack when things dont go to plan..

Ok I'm gonna use some examples of player power.

AVB, he inherited a squad he was told to lower the age of and bring in fresh faces who are younger and will lower wage bill. He dod what owner asked but wad undermined by key players and was subsequently sacked. That team miraculously regrouped and won a double. The reason is because the new manager was accepted and played for.

Real battered Barca last year and set new records. Now the team has gone to shit because players are revolting and the camps in diasarray.

You say trailing Athletico like its some substandard outfit. Please see what they have done for last few years. That teams playing for manager and Real aren't. Simple as that.

If Mancini had Kompany asking like Casillas I'd be equally as sympathetic and would chastise Kompany. It's a sad sight to see, no matter what team.

We got there in the end nipholmes
Its the players fault,not jose's

Just out of curiosity do you think its Mancinis fault we are 7 behind or the players?