Mourinho or Mancini

Prestwich_Blue said:
As a City fan, I'm not interested in who's set what records, what they did at other clubs or even their personality. I don't care that we were playing at places like York or Macclesfielda 14 years ago as that has no relevance to where we are now.

I'm only interested in who is the best person to take us forward from being a big fish domestically (which we are now) to being a big fish in the European elite pond. Mancini has certainly delivered on the domestic front and will always be part of our history in the same way that Joe Mercer & Malcolm Allison are. But in five attempts with an expensively assembled team both in Italy and here he hasn't managed to make an impression in the CL and has fallen at the first reasonably difficult hurdle.

Mourinho,on the other hand, has won the CL twice, once with unfancied Porto and the other after taking over front Mancini at Inter. Now that interests me.

Didn't you know, we only failed in the CL because we don't have the required experience in the competition. All we have to do is be in it more often and we will magically improve and start progressing in it, apparently. It's nothing to do with the manager.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
As a City fan, I'm not interested in who's set what records, what they did at other clubs or even their personality. I don't care that we were playing at places like York or Macclesfielda 14 years ago as that has no relevance to where we are now.
I'm only interested in who is the best person to take us forward from being a big fish domestically (which we are now) to being a big fish in the European elite pond. Mancini has certainly delivered on the domestic front and will always be part of our history in the same way that Joe Mercer & Malcolm Allison are. But in five attempts with an expensively assembled team both in Italy and here he hasn't managed to make an impression in the CL and has fallen at the first reasonably difficult hurdle.

Mourinho,on the other hand, has won the CL twice, once with unfancied Porto and the other after taking over front Mancini at Inter. Now that interests me.


And it's that highlighted sentence which sets some posters apart from others.

Some of us understand it has NO significance whatsoever on where we are now. We are a different club. You may as well tell me who Bury are playing this week, because that is how much relevance it has.

It's incredible to think how far we have become, and nice to look back (in a way) and be nostalgic. I still love to watch the Play off Final- one of my favourite ever games, and prob our most important as a club, but is any of that relevant now...NO.

Then you get those who think it is, who cling onto it and don't move with the club, yet think we are punching above our weight and we don't deserve to be here. The owners don't hink that, and nor do the players....
 
Lancet Fluke said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
How the fuck can anyone say Mourinho plays boring football when Madrid have scored 100 plus league goals in each of the last two seasons.

Really cant see us getting Mourinho though the thread should be Pep or Mancini.

A Pep, Mourinho or Mancini thread would be good. I reckon any of those three could easily be our manager next season. If Mancini does go, who would be the preferred option of the other two? For me Mourinho gives as close to guaranteed success as you can get. Pep is more of a gamble, I worry that he could turn out to be another Rijkaard but then clearly there are reasons to think that he could be truly amazing.
Tough one Mourinho would guarantee us trophies he also has experience in England but I think Pep along with Sorriano and Txiki Begiristain could do something special but like you said it would be much more of a gamble and require patience. If I had to pick probably Mourinho but if Mancini leaves it will be Pep imo. Can you see two ex Barce guys hiring Mourinho?
 
dancity19 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
As a City fan, I'm not interested in who's set what records, what they did at other clubs or even their personality. I don't care that we were playing at places like York or Macclesfielda 14 years ago as that has no relevance to where we are now.
I'm only interested in who is the best person to take us forward from being a big fish domestically (which we are now) to being a big fish in the European elite pond. Mancini has certainly delivered on the domestic front and will always be part of our history in the same way that Joe Mercer & Malcolm Allison are. But in five attempts with an expensively assembled team both in Italy and here he hasn't managed to make an impression in the CL and has fallen at the first reasonably difficult hurdle.

Mourinho,on the other hand, has won the CL twice, once with unfancied Porto and the other after taking over front Mancini at Inter. Now that interests me.


And it's that highlighted sentence which sets some posters apart from others.

Some of us understand it has NO significance whatsoever on where we are now. We are a different club. You may as well tell me who Bury are playing this week, because that is how much relevance it has.

It's incredible to think how far we have become, and nice to look back (in a way) and be nostalgic. I still love to watch the Play off Final- one of my favourite ever games, and prob our most important as a club, but is any of that relevant now...NO.

Then you get those who think it is, who cling onto it and don't move with the club, yet think we are punching above our weight and we don't deserve to be here. The owners don't hink that, and nor do the players....

Great post. I would also tie the "chopping and changing managers didn't do us any good in the past" comment with that sentiment too.

Ground zero, year one for the modern Manchester City was September 1st 2008. Everything that went before is of no interest or relevance to the men that matter. Before that we were a badly run club who got most things wrong. From that day on, whilst we didn't become a well run club overnight, we became effectively a brand new club.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
How the fuck can anyone say Mourinho plays boring football when Madrid have scored 100 plus league goals in each of the last two seasons.

Really cant see us getting Mourinho though the thread should be Pep or Mancini.

That's another thread. But get your debate in quick because the Pambot has arrived so it will be all downhill from here.

She does n't really say much though does she? The fact that she refers to Internazionale as Milan shows how clueless she really is. She gets all pissed off and behaves like a spolit child having a tantrum but she never says anything new or that goes anyway to dismiss other's doubts about Mancini.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
dancity19 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
As a City fan, I'm not interested in who's set what records, what they did at other clubs or even their personality. I don't care that we were playing at places like York or Macclesfielda 14 years ago as that has no relevance to where we are now.
I'm only interested in who is the best person to take us forward from being a big fish domestically (which we are now) to being a big fish in the European elite pond. Mancini has certainly delivered on the domestic front and will always be part of our history in the same way that Joe Mercer & Malcolm Allison are. But in five attempts with an expensively assembled team both in Italy and here he hasn't managed to make an impression in the CL and has fallen at the first reasonably difficult hurdle.

Mourinho,on the other hand, has won the CL twice, once with unfancied Porto and the other after taking over front Mancini at Inter. Now that interests me.


And it's that highlighted sentence which sets some posters apart from others.

Some of us understand it has NO significance whatsoever on where we are now. We are a different club. You may as well tell me who Bury are playing this week, because that is how much relevance it has.

It's incredible to think how far we have become, and nice to look back (in a way) and be nostalgic. I still love to watch the Play off Final- one of my favourite ever games, and prob our most important as a club, but is any of that relevant now...NO.

Then you get those who think it is, who cling onto it and don't move with the club, yet think we are punching above our weight and we don't deserve to be here. The owners don't hink that, and nor do the players....

Great post. I would also tie the "chopping and changing managers didn't do us any good in the past" comment with that sentiment too.

Ground zero, year one for the modern Manchester City was September 1st 2008. Everything that went before is of no interest or relevance to the men that matter. Before that we were a badly run club who got most things wrong. From that day on, whilst we didn't become a well run club overnight, we became effectively a brand new club.


Thankfully I don't see 'think about york away' too much anymore. The new one is 'is this what city fans have become, you sound like a rag, or like a chelsea fan'.

Lacks sense in equal measure. If being disappointed after a defeat, or another european failure, worst than the last makes me a 'rag' then I'm lost...

I think in some posters eyes City fans are meant to bask in defeat and under achievement....
 
You can't slate Mourinho's record, he wins trophies then leaves, eventually he'll have to stop falling out with people and settle somewhere though, there's not many top jobs left for him.

I don't think he'll be City manager any time soon (hopefully because Mancini is successful enough to keep the job), he's allegedly previously turned the job down for one and I can't imagine that wins him any points with Khaldoon but the other issue imo would be the new academy. Off the top of my head I can't think of Mourinho ever putting his faith in a youngster and that's clearly where the owner/chairman want the future of the club to go.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Ground zero, year one for the modern Manchester City was September 1st 2008. Everything that went before is of no interest or relevance to the men that matter. Before that we were a badly run club who got most things wrong. From that day on, whilst we didn't become a well run club overnight, we became effectively a brand new club.


I'm really glad to read such a rational and true post DD.
The "you weren't here 30 years ago so you have no right to complain about our current situation" argument is getting extremely boring.

And btw; to say we have failed in Europe the past two years because "we lack experience" is just wrong. How many of our players have played in the CL. Has our manager lead teams in the CL prior to us?
 
dancity19 said:
Thankfully I don't see 'think about york away' too much anymore. The new one is 'is this what city fans have become, you sound like a rag, or like a chelsea fan'.

Lacks sense in equal measure. If being disappointed after a defeat, or another european failure, worst than the last makes me a 'rag' then I'm lost...

I think in some posters eyes City fans are meant to bask in defeat and under achievement....

The worst is "our fans have become spoilt". Grrrr.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
Didn't you know, we only failed in the CL because we don't have the required experience in the competition. All we have to do is be in it more often and we will magically improve and start progressing in it, apparently. It's nothing to do with the manager.

A number of things need to improve for us to succeed in Europe, not just the manager. For me I think he has earned another shot at it with us to get things right.
 

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