Moving Away Fans / SSL3 /2 All City Fans.

Are there enough seats in 110,111 & 113 to give them the 3,000 we’d be required to give?
I think, stand corrected, there are roughly 1100 seats in the SSL3 away end?. That's just over 2 blocks as a rule. But I think blocks 110 and 111 are smaller blocks as they are the corner blocks. Giving the away fans the other half of block 114 might make it possible, otherwise the away fans would need part or all of block 109 as well. We need a seat counter to clarify. :-)
 
I think you'll find it does matter, hence why United and Newcastle get special dispensation from the PL to do that.

Disabled people have to be catered for. That's where United's disabled section is.

As for Newcastle, I would assume it is physically impossible to have the away fans from top to pitch side in the stand. Not to mention possible trouble occuring between both sets of fans. That would be a PL, Council/H&S, and Police concern.

I'm sure when United and Newcastle build new stadiums, away fans will have to be pitch side in those plans.

Just accept it and move on
Why can’t the Geordies have 3000 away fans on the bottom tier?
 
I think, stand corrected, there are roughly 1100 seats in the SSL3 away end?. That's just over 2 blocks as a rule. But I think blocks 110 and 111 are smaller blocks as they are the corner blocks. Giving the away fans the other half of block 114 might make it possible, otherwise the away fans would need part or all of block 109 as well. We need a seat counter to clarify. :-)
These are the figures I had 5 years ago ...
113: 568
114: 690 (full block, not just the away allocation) - 310?
213: 403
214: 414 (ditto) - 186?
313: 1086
314: 997 (ditto) - 447?

So looks like just under half each of 114/214/314 are allocated roughly 310/186/447 respectively.
 
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Why can’t the Geordies have 3000 away fans on the bottom tier?
Here you go.

“Since the redevelopment of St James’ Park in 2000, away supporters have been located on level seven of the Leazes Stand and will remain there after extensive consultation with the local authority, emergency services and independent consultants concluded it to be the most appropriate location to ensure the safety of away supporters.

 
Not for me. Away fans are in a good spot as they are now.

In a thin slither and split up into three distinct sections where none of them are ever singing the same song at the same time as each other.

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They look and sound insignificant to the wider stadium as they are.

There hasn’t been a decent set of away fans, singing as one, for a normal allocation game (ie, not the domestic Cups when they get more tickets) going back years, and it’s due to the way they’re situated.

And you can’t really see them too much when we’re on the tele as most are away from the TV cameras. You can only ever see that tiny little section of them on Level 1. Putting them all in a spot they’d be seen for the TV isn’t a good idea.

Plus even worse than the aesthetic reason; why on Earth would we group them all together in one mass creating one big voice for them to create a better atmosphere?

Also, as they are now, we’ve got two good groups either side of the away fans on Level 1 who ‘give it’ to the away fans and are good at intimidating them (there have been comments from fanbases about this). Lose 110-111 from this and block 106 will be nowhere near as vociferous towards them.

We need to concentrate on making NSL2 our big atmosphere stand. We need as many of those fans like in the Leicester away end the other day to move to NSL2. Commandeer the stand and make it our atmosphere stand. This is possibly our last ever opportunity to create a proper home stand for atmosphere at the Etihad. We seriously cannot just let it fritter away… Operation NSL2!
 
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Give the away fans the other half of 114, 111, and 110. They will be even less significant, and a lot quieter, tucked away in the corner.

PS. Really enjoying the views and opinions about this, regardless if it doesn't happen or does happen.
 
Give the away fans the other half of 114, 111, and 110. They will be even less significant, and a lot quieter, tucked away in the corner.

PS. Really enjoying the views and opinions about this, regardless if it doesn't happen or does happen.
Nobody is ‘tucked away’ on Level 1. Everyone is within the main bowl of the stadium there. Putting them there gives them one giant voice and pride of place for TV.

 
We have one of the best sectioned off away ends in the country, it's very easily policed with the entire away end completely blocked off with only one entrance/exit. That's always going to be the priority and the reason why I believe they'll never willingly change it.

Can't think of many others like ours, stoke is the only one that comes to mind, that is pretty much the same as the Etihad with a completely fenced in away section and Leeds is like the extreme, prison version with half a mile of cages to get through.

Anybody in the south stand will know first hand how much of a ballache it becomes getting in/out in cup games when we have to give them the third tier instead and entrances and segregation outside the ground changes, nobody wants to deal with that shitshow every other week.

In the ground, breaking them into 3 stands makes it a lot harder for them to all sing in unison, not impossible but most of their songs take far more effort to buikd into a full away end singing with the mahority tailing off before they can fully get going. Anything else helps them build an atmosphere, and why would we do that?

Aside from the logistics, it's still a no thanks from me, I'm basically on the barrier in SS1, I'm there because I want to be, I like it, everybody I even vaguely know around me seems to feel the same. never heard any complaints. I have zero intention of moving from my seat and if there were to be any overhaul of the layout that forced me to move or even just changed my match experinence, my first thought would be to find an equivalent seat to what I have now, essentially just creating the same environment in a different part of the ground. There's no problem to be fixed here in my eyes.
 
Away fans on SSL3.

Give singing City fans those 1000+ safe standing seats and we would make some noise up there. And join in with the new NSL2 tier across the pitch in full view.

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