MUEN - what's gone wrong?

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nmc said:
If there is no bias at the MEN - as you say how come the Sports Editor when he's on Talkshite refers to the rags as "we". Hardly a statement of impartiality. Then again he usually tries to make out he's in the inner sanctum at OT but it's pretty clear the Sports Editor of the MEN has as few connections at OT as he does at the Etihad. For a local paper the MEN really has lost its way and has few if any decent contacts at either club. My issue is less about bias and more about quality.
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This is nonsense - he doesn't ever refer to United as "we". You might have misheard him referring to the MEN as "we". For a start, the sports editor is not, and never has been, a United fan, so he wouldn't even do it in an unguarded moment. Go on Talksport's website, search his name and find me a clip in which he refers to United as "we".

The rest of your post is an opinion, and I accept you have the right to think what you think, but we also get plenty of positive reactions from United and City fans.
 
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Get some more wood on this thread - it's a belter!
 
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SWP's back said:
How did my donkey sex drungeon end up in the MEN?
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Now you've just confirmed it, it will be the front page splash tomorrow . . . nothing like a nice piece of ass.


Anyhow, I have to write some blathering nonsense about this Team GB football match, so I'd better say bye.
To those who have been fair and rational, thank you, even if we don't agree.
To those who persist in basing opinions on bullshit made up by others, or on things that might, or might not have happened 40 years ago, just sort it out, eh?
 
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Stuart, do the MEN (and other papers too) really think just endlessly publishing what players are ''tweeting'' is what readers want to see?
I appreciate you don't have the access that journo's once had, but it's as if many papers are just following anyone and everyone on twitter and turning it into a story - usually followed with the words ''causing a storm on twitter'' (which roughly means lots of people posting mock horrified comments for eg because Ryan Giggs didn't sing the national anthem).

Do you think it was valid yesterday in the MEN following that story up with a comment from Tommy Doc saying it was a disgrace?
The paper has become more of a daily version of Hello, celebrity driven, with actual local news getting pushed further and further out.
 
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There are far more accurate resources for real news than newspapers in the modern age we live in. By the nature of print runs etc the news you get in all papers nowadays has always been superseded with more current and accurate facts.
Everything else in the papers is gossip and opinion pieces, if you don't like them don't buy them. With modern technology and instant access from devices that everyone from Children to pensioners now control, the newspaper industry and it's contributors are a dying legacy who's days are numbered. Life is too short, and as a Blue too good at the moment for me to be offended by any journalists opinion.
 
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laserblue said:
stuart brennan said:
laserblue said:
Has there been any explanation as to why Peter Spencer goes on Talksport pretending to be the voice of football in Manchester and downplays City at every opportunity?
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Somebody came on and said this once before. I asked him, and I'm asking you now, to go on Talksport's website, where you can listen to clips going back months, search for spencer, and find me the evidence of him downplaying City at every opportunity. I will then give you an answer.

Last time, the person didn't come back to me - let's see if you have the conviction to do it.

Like seeing what they want to see in newspapers, people hear what they want to hear on radio.
For instance, I wrote an article saying City were absolutely brilliant last season, and played some magical football, but next season are targeting CL and PL, so will need to improve. I then detailed the areas where I think they can improve.
This was portrayed in some City quarters as me slaughtering City, saying they weren't good enough. It is Idiotsville stuff, really
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I appreciate you responding to this Stu. However, according to Talksport's archive Peter Spencer has only been on three times in 2012 (in fact since August last year) and two of those were this month about the van Persie transfer saga.

Now, unless I'm greatly mistaken, I'm sure I've caught him on Talksport rather more than three times in almost a year despite being only an occasional listener to that station. While I don't accuse him of slagging off City on air, I've often thought that his opinions on things City are at the very least bland and that he's never fought City's corner when some of the presenters have been having a go.

The point is that he's introduced as the sports editor of the MEN so neutrals will naturally assume that he will always be as positive as he can about the club. Unfortunately I can't name dates and times when this has happened, partly because I don't log them and partly because Talksport's archive is surely incomplete.
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Finding it hard to believe that Peter Spencer was on Talksport only three times in almost a year I went back into their archive and have to put my hand up. It originally appeared that the archive interviews with Spencer were in date order (newest first) but then I found that many were jumbled up out of order and there were indeed more.

Anyway, I picked one at random. Hawksbee and Jacobs Friday 16th March 2012. This was the day after both Manchester teams went out of the Europa League which was Hawksbee's opening gambit to Spencer. This subject was discussed for approx 1 minute 45 seconds during which time Spencer spoke only about how it affected United. He didn't mention City at all.

Talking about the title race he said that failure to win it would have "huge ramifications" for City without considering any negative effect failure might have on United.

Then he said that if Mourinho becomes available in the summer City "will be tempted" to sack Mancini and appoint him. That's about as negative a comment the sports editor of a Manchester paper could make about the manager of one of Manchester's clubs going neck and neck on the run in for the title. Stu, ask him from me if he felt a bit of a twat when Mancini was recently given a 5 year contract extension.

Then he came out with the old worn (and totally discredited) cliche about United having all the experience on the run in while for City bit was "a whole new world", thereby totally ignoring the breadth and depth of experience in big game and big series situations of many of City's squad.

If the above isn't downplaying City and focusing on negativity I really don't know what is.
 
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We need all opinions - keeps it healthy, or you get this shit!

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