MUEN - what's gone wrong?

[Shirley]

Stuart Brennan, your attempt to sweep under the carpet the cowardly attacks on City fans after the semi final is totally out of order.
I am certain you read the threads on here at the time and you can't continue to accuse everyone of being paranoid, the attacks are well documented.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Stuart Brennan, your attempt to sweep under the carpet the cowardly attacks on City fans after the semi final is totally out of order.
I am certain you read the threads on here at the time and you can't continue to accuse everyone of being paranoid, the attacks are well documented.

Give it up, for fuck's sake. The world is bigger than this forum.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Stuart Brennan, your attempt to sweep under the carpet the cowardly attacks on City fans after the semi final is totally out of order.
I am certain you read the threads on here at the time and you can't continue to accuse everyone of being paranoid, the attacks are well documented.

Give it up, for fuck's sake. The world is bigger than this forum.

Really? Why didn't someone mention this earlier?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Stuart Brennan, your attempt to sweep under the carpet the cowardly attacks on City fans after the semi final is totally out of order.
I am certain you read the threads on here at the time and you can't continue to accuse everyone of being paranoid, the attacks are well documented.

Give it up, for fuck's sake. The world is bigger than this forum.

Really? Why didn't someone mention this earlier?

I promise it is. There's ManCityfans.net and everything out there ;-)

 

[Mike D]

Give it up, for fuck's sake. The world is bigger than this forum.

Really? Why didn't someone mention this earlier?

I promise it is. There's ManCityfans.net and everything out there ;-)

If thats all there is then I'd rather not bother.

 

[Shirley]

Stuart Brennan, your attempt to sweep under the carpet the cowardly attacks on City fans after the semi final is totally out of order.
I am certain you read the threads on here at the time and you can't continue to accuse everyone of being paranoid, the attacks are well documented.

Give it up, for fuck's sake. The world is bigger than this forum.

Says Mr DD with 17213 posts.

 

[SWP's back]

Stuart Brennan, your attempt to sweep under the carpet the cowardly attacks on City fans after the semi final is totally out of order.
I am certain you read the threads on here at the time and you can't continue to accuse everyone of being paranoid, the attacks are well documented.

Give it up, for fuck's sake. The world is bigger than this forum.

Says Mr DD with 17213 posts.

Shirley not.

 

[bluemanc]

Whilst I'm certainly not holding it up as a bastion of superlative City reporting, I just don't agree at all that it has a bias. Well it has - it licks the arses of the clubs it's readership support. If anyone looks hard enough, they'll see bias in any direction. God knows, they get exactly the same criticism from United fans, which speaks volumes.

You, like me, are a dyed in the wool City fan who spends too much time on football forums. So you hear the tales of City fans being attacked, you see the twitter pic of that tatoo. And in your world you are outraged that the local paper hasn't reported them. But in truth, the MEN is a business, and if it can print a story which will sell some copies it will. It will sometimes tread carefully, and it does that with both clubs.

I've seen Utd fans going mad about pics of a City fan with "Munich 58" on the back. I've seen innocent groups of United fans battered to fuck by City fans. And they haven't had coverage in the MEN.

In short, and I mean this respectfully, you are looking at it from a one-eyed point of view. Supporting a football club does that, it blocks out the rest of the world and distorts reality. You are seeing what you want to see. I haven't a clue what these "digs" of Brennan's are, but I would be willing to bet they were figments of a paranoid imagination. You think a journo, who has just missed out on the latest round of redundancy would risk his job and his family's future to make an in-joke? No chance.

Half the MEN's sport's team and half the MEN's readership support City. You are right that the written press are struggling at the moment, and that's why they wouldn't be so idiotic as to not be totally biased towards City.

I'm not getting involved in this discussion in any more detail, I honestly find it embarrassing. Not having a go at you because at least you've tried to be articulate about it. But some of the stuff people write - and believe - is just fucking cringeworthy.

The MEN is City's and United's Pravda. All local papers are for their local teams. Your comments about the Chronicle are irrelevant. If the MEN was such a United paper, why was it's Sports Editor for donkey's years a mad keen City fan?

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Best post of the entire thread - absolutely bang on, and put better than anything I have said.
Are you after my job?[/quote]
The thing is though Stu he doesnt read the MEN,he just jumps on threads like this & threads about Talksport because the threads are popular & he needs to post something on the thread...

 

[Bill]

If we aren't arsed about the MEN, why is it we're all over this post?
Let's be honest, at least Mr Brennan's engaged the fans on here, acknowledging us
for one thing, as opposed to ignoring us.

his boss told him to come on allegedly. stu said aww do i have to gaffer? yes brennan get on and at least try and cover our tracks. ok boss i'll give it a go, can't promise mind, they know we love the rags.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Brennan's making most of you look like one-eyed, paranoid, bitter, insecure and angry football goons.

Wonder why that is?

As with most arguments, the truth is usually somewhere down the middle. Some of the comments are extreme, but then again a lot of them contain more than a grain of truth.
While things have improved lately — and Stuart Brennan to be fair is responsible for a lot of that — there can be no denying that it did favour United in the past, often blatantly so.
It is well known that the old Chronicle was more sympathetic to City, while the MEN was the 'United' paper.
Even Mr Brennan seems to have improved since his early days covering the club, when some of what he wrote could be seen as snide, underhand digs at City. For example, printing United fan jokes about City, in full, in the first few pars of his coverage of City's FA Cup parade was at best ill-advised, at worst antagonistic. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but some I know certainly wouldn't.
The newspaper's policy of brushing a lot of negative stuff from the other place under the carpet is still going strong. There was barely a mention of the cowardly attacks on blue families, shirters and young-uns at the semi final, for example. The '96 wne' tattoo story has not had a sniff of coverage, nor the story about a fan having a United shirt printed with a similarly vile message at a Manchester sports shop.
It will take years for this institutional bias to disappear and while they have made a good start, the fact is that daily regional newspapers in printed form will be extinct within a decade. They will be just another website competing for your attention.

Whilst I'm certainly not holding it up as a bastion of superlative City reporting, I just don't agree at all that it has a bias. Well it has - it licks the arses of the clubs it's readership support. If anyone looks hard enough, they'll see bias in any direction. God knows, they get exactly the same criticism from United fans, which speaks volumes.

You, like me, are a dyed in the wool City fan who spends too much time on football forums. So you hear the tales of City fans being attacked, you see the twitter pic of that tatoo. And in your world you are outraged that the local paper hasn't reported them. But in truth, the MEN is a business, and if it can print a story which will sell some copies it will. It will sometimes tread carefully, and it does that with both clubs.

I've seen Utd fans going mad about pics of a City fan with "Munich 58" on the back. I've seen innocent groups of United fans battered to fuck by City fans. And they haven't had coverage in the MEN.

In short, and I mean this respectfully, you are looking at it from a one-eyed point of view. Supporting a football club does that, it blocks out the rest of the world and distorts reality. You are seeing what you want to see. I haven't a clue what these "digs" of Brennan's are, but I would be willing to bet they were figments of a paranoid imagination. You think a journo, who has just missed out on the latest round of redundancy would risk his job and his family's future to make an in-joke? No chance.

Half the MEN's sport's team and half the MEN's readership support City. You are right that the written press are struggling at the moment, and that's why they wouldn't be so idiotic as to not be totally biased towards City.

I'm not getting involved in this discussion in any more detail, I honestly find it embarrassing. Not having a go at you because at least you've tried to be articulate about it. But some of the stuff people write - and believe - is just fucking cringeworthy.

The MEN is City's and United's Pravda. All local papers are for their local teams. Your comments about the Chronicle are irrelevant. If the MEN was such a United paper, why was it's Sports Editor for donkey's years a mad keen City fan?

Probably the best post I've seen from yourself DD.