Nasri [Merged] continued.

[VOOMER]

Ian cheeseman an was on gmr yesterday and said it was from a source at the club. So no not newspaper bullshit. It's purely down to agent fees it's been agreed with nasri he is happy to come the deal is done with arsenal.

He called the tevez and lescott deals well before they happened so it's not like he doesn't have form with this.

How has this been handled well ? Mancini clearly isn't happy he has said himself he wanted him signed 40 days ago !

no one knows who the frustrations are aimed at by mancini it could be the agents for all we know,if its true about us telling agents to go do one asking for £3million then nice one city we wont be done over by nobody again.

if its cooke or marwood well mancini is the manager he says a name he wants they try and get him but a manager does not care about facts and figures and at times will get frustrated.

This

Mancini is the manager - Cookie and Co are the money men - Managers want every player and they want them regardless - Mancini job is to manager Cookie and co main job is to make sure we meet the Fair Play stuff - football managers and boards falling out over transfer funds and players etc is part and parcel of football management and is pretty much the same at every club - Everton apart of course

Cook has shown himself to be a very capable marketing executive and thats where his strength is. Marwood is simply his buddy, who knows more about football than he does and was brought in to act as Cook's eyes and ears with Hughes, who was making serious changes to our coaching staff with out qualifying why. Marwood position is now redundant. He has neither the expertise, nor guile to deal with what is now happening to the club and I for one, can't wait to see the back of him, he is simply Cook's toady.

 

[Anonymous]

Possible;although I think Bobby is genuinely frustrated. However, whilst all of city's management have the same end game in mind (world domination etc), they have different roles to play in achieving it. Bobby just wants the players he wants, Cook has to be more mindful of budgets and other considerations. Cook is a clever guy and he has proved that he learns lessons: his biggest problem was being too honest in public and now he has largely shut up. We don't know what financial targets Cook has been given and there is no evidence that Cook and Marwood are cocking up transfer dealings, plus they have Williams on the team to add extra experience on that front. Until the transfer window has played out, we shouldn't rush to conclusions and it may be well after that before we can conclude if the club's current business tactics, strategy and judgements are good ones.

Good post and one I tend to agree with.

 

[VOOMER]

Marwood should be shown the door asap and Cook should aologise for employing him. These two were happy for the jo and santa cruz deals to go through for huge fees, yet FFP, or not we are hanging around again for a top class player like Nasri. They are the two biggest liabilities at the club and with the 3rd turd from Blackburn joining I think we have a problem.

kun aguero

sorry voomer but u are the biggest dick on bluemoon after saying that,fuck off will you!!!!!!

Ah a budding poet laureate, did you run out of cohesive thought a the moment you wanted write "You"? still there's always peppa pig isn't there. As for the most prolific phallic object, may I suggest a quick look in the mirror.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

Jo and Roque were signed before June 2010 so their wages do not count towards FFP!!

Even more so now Jo has gone.

 

[VOOMER]

Possible;although I think Bobby is genuinely frustrated. However, whilst all of city's management have the same end game in mind (world domination etc), they have different roles to play in achieving it. Bobby just wants the players he wants, Cook has to be more mindful of budgets and other considerations. Cook is a clever guy and he has proved that he learns lessons: his biggest problem was being too honest in public and now he has largely shut up. We don't know what financial targets Cook has been given and there is no evidence that Cook and Marwood are cocking up transfer dealings, plus they have Williams on the team to add extra experience on that front. Until the transfer window has played out, we shouldn't rush to conclusions and it may be well after that before we can conclude if the club's current business tactics, strategy and judgements are good ones.

Good post and one I tend to agree with.

This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

More importantly what "is" his role, because Savic, was a signed on a Bobby contact and Kun has been tracked by the top clubs for 3 years and it would have been Cook who sold the dream, (if it needed selling, as Zab appears to have done that bit). I simply agree with bobby, the deal should have been done just like Kun's deal, at least a week before the community shield and as he is the one who will be flirted if it all goes pear shaped, I can understand why when targets are identified months in advance, that taking months, (Sanchez aside) would seem a little strange.

 

[Anonymous]

This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

I think you're misguided. Bridge came in before Marwood. Marwood was brought in in March/April 2009 IIRC. That summer Hughes handed a transfer list to Marwood and Cook and although both men had serious concerns about the targets, and their 'value for money', Hughes was in the end given the tools he asked for.

 

[RandyBlue]

Possible;although I think Bobby is genuinely frustrated. However, whilst all of city's management have the same end game in mind (world domination etc), they have different roles to play in achieving it. Bobby just wants the players he wants, Cook has to be more mindful of budgets and other considerations. Cook is a clever guy and he has proved that he learns lessons: his biggest problem was being too honest in public and now he has largely shut up. We don't know what financial targets Cook has been given and there is no evidence that Cook and Marwood are cocking up transfer dealings, plus they have Williams on the team to add extra experience on that front. Until the transfer window has played out, we shouldn't rush to conclusions and it may be well after that before we can conclude if the club's current business tactics, strategy and judgements are good ones.

Good post and one I tend to agree with.

OB1 always talks sense. He's the Anti-Alera.

 

[dctid]

Possible;although I think Bobby is genuinely frustrated. However, whilst all of city's management have the same end game in mind (world domination etc), they have different roles to play in achieving it. Bobby just wants the players he wants, Cook has to be more mindful of budgets and other considerations. Cook is a clever guy and he has proved that he learns lessons: his biggest problem was being too honest in public and now he has largely shut up. We don't know what financial targets Cook has been given and there is no evidence that Cook and Marwood are cocking up transfer dealings, plus they have Williams on the team to add extra experience on that front. Until the transfer window has played out, we shouldn't rush to conclusions and it may be well after that before we can conclude if the club's current business tactics, strategy and judgements are good ones.

Good post and one I tend to agree with.

This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

And no doubt they would say they were supporting Hughes whom chased Crocky relentlessly for 12 months plus same can be said for Lescott and Bridge. Think they have learned their lesson and doing thinfs the right way - Macini would spend spend spend becuase his job is too produce a winning team Cookie and co are there to make sure we do so whilst meeting fair play shit

as Bobby would say

eeeeezzzzzzzz is normal in football

anyway has Nasri signed yet and is he cup tied - someone said he was

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Possible;although I think Bobby is genuinely frustrated. However, whilst all of city's management have the same end game in mind (world domination etc), they have different roles to play in achieving it. Bobby just wants the players he wants, Cook has to be more mindful of budgets and other considerations. Cook is a clever guy and he has proved that he learns lessons: his biggest problem was being too honest in public and now he has largely shut up. We don't know what financial targets Cook has been given and there is no evidence that Cook and Marwood are cocking up transfer dealings, plus they have Williams on the team to add extra experience on that front. Until the transfer window has played out, we shouldn't rush to conclusions and it may be well after that before we can conclude if the club's current business tactics, strategy and judgements are good ones.

Good post and one I tend to agree with.

This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

I'm not convinced by Marwood but to be fair to him it is generally reckoned that he was really not happy about us signing Santa Cruz but reluctantly relented because Hughes was so insistent. I also think it is safe to assume that nobody at the club was happy to pay that much for Lescott (given how long the deal took) but we were desperately in need of a centre half and as we entered the last week of that transfer window, we ran out of time/options. It is a bit frustrating that we used to be such an easy touch in the market over some less than convincing targets and now seem to be playing hardball over proven quality but generally I don't think we should be complaining that the club are now less happy to be treated like mugs.

 

[taconinja]

This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

I think you're misguided. Bridge came in before Marwood. Marwood was brought in in March/April 2009 IIRC. That summer Hughes handed a transfer list to Marwood and Cook and although both men had serious concerns about the targets, and their 'value for money', Hughes was in the end given the tools he asked for.

Ah, transition periods... they can create so much havoc for such a long, long time. Still, the players got us to the point where we can sign better players. The real culprit in all this is UEFA who quickly became determined to shut the door. Fortunately, we already had our foot in. I think in two years we'll be doing very well. It's just going to be bumpy getting there.