Nasri [Merged] continued.

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VOOMER said:
This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

More importantly what "is" his role, because Savic, was a signed on a Bobby contact and Kun has been tracked by the top clubs for 3 years and it would have been Cook who sold the dream, (if it needed selling, as Zab appears to have done that bit). I simply agree with bobby, the deal should have been done just like Kun's deal, at least a week before the community shield and as he is the one who will be flirted if it all goes pear shaped, I can understand why when targets are identified months in advance, that taking months, (Sanchez aside) would seem a little strange.

We made mistakes with players like santa cruz ( I would argue lescott has been a good signing considering he’s first choice centre half two years after he signed). However you’re contradicting yourself – you’re having a go at cook and marwood for making signings the manager (hughes) wanted and now you’re having a go at them for taking their time over signings that the manager wants (mancini).
The way the takeover happened it was inevitable that this situation was going to arise – we weren’t going to sign silva and aguero level players at the time we were signing adebayor and lescott.
Because of the rapid rate of improvement in our squad it was always going to be the case that players go left behind quicker than they would do at other times.
Offloading players is a headache but it was an almost inevitable by-product of us getting to where we are today in such a short space of time.
Personally I’m over the moon with the current situation with the club and squad. Cook, Marwood, Mancini, khaldoon and everyone else at the club have helped get us to the point where we are at now –FA cup holders and challenging for the title four years after we were relegation candidates. This kind of success would not be possible if there was such a cataclysmic weak link at the very top of our club/company.
If Marwood and cook – two of the most senior figures at the club – are as incapable as you suggest then there is no way we would currently be in the position we are in – both on the field and off it.
 
taconinja said:
BillyShears said:
VOOMER said:
This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

I think you're misguided. Bridge came in before Marwood. Marwood was brought in in March/April 2009 IIRC. That summer Hughes handed a transfer list to Marwood and Cook and although both men had serious concerns about the targets, and their 'value for money', Hughes was in the end given the tools he asked for.
Ah, transition periods... they can create so much havoc for such a long, long time. Still, the players got us to the point where we can sign better players. The real culprit in all this is UEFA who quickly became determined to shut the door. Fortunately, we already had our foot in. I think in two years we'll be doing very well. It's just going to be bumpy getting there.


I was just about to write this.

We we're in turmoil only 6 months before we got the likes of the above players aswell, not many star footballers would entertain City at the time and those that did had to be convinced with the smell of cash.

I think the way City Cook/Marwood and Khaldoon have DRAGGED this club to the level it's currently is is nothing short of a miracle, especially as sooo many had high hopes of us failing and often or not stuck knives in.

Voomer pal, I think your being a tad harsh mate.
 
I am sure it's an interesting debate about transfers and there is scope for another thread but people want to read about the Nasri transfer can we get back on topic please
 
I wasn't tha fussed about Nasri coming or not but after this weekend I must admit that I worry if Silva got injured who would replace him in that position and after seeing Nasri v Liverpool he certainly fits the bill.

Get him signed City!
 
Dont know if its already been posted or not but this doesnt sound good



"He is happy here. There is no departure of Nasri at the moment," Wenger told French media outlet TF1.

"Maybe one day, but it's far, far, far from being done."
 
Looks like we'll play Nasri tonight.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/arsenal-boss-wenger-warns-man-city-i-will-play-nasri-udinese-1834231" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ ... se-1834231</a>

He'll be cup tied for you guys.

Mancini says we shouldn't play him as it would create a big problem.

<a class="postlink" href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/947105/man-city's-roberto-mancini:-arsenal's-samir-nasri-must-not-play?cc=3888" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ay?cc=3888</a>

I hope Wenger doesn't play him, because if it makes Mancini pull out, the we lose out on the 25mil and he goes for free at the end of the season, which really sucks. I'd rather we get the silly money and probably spend on another quality player who can sign long term.
 
Bluemooner33 said:
Dont know if its already been posted or not but this doesnt sound good



"He is happy here. There is no departure of Nasri at the moment," Wenger told French media outlet TF1.

"Maybe one day, but it's far, far, far from being done."

Yes, 24 hours ago but thanks anyway....
 
Bluemooner33 said:
Dont know if its already been posted or not but this doesnt sound good



"He is happy here. There is no departure of Nasri at the moment," Wenger told French media outlet TF1.

"Maybe one day, but it's far, far, far from being done."

and if he does not sign its his loss - lets focus on the players that are here and putting a shift in and if Nasri and his agents are not prepared to reduce the agents fees then he can stay where he is and scrap for a Europa Leagus spot

Yes he would be a decent signing but after 2 months of being pissed around its wearing a bit think for me at least<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:42 pm --<br /><br />
red sun said:
Looks like we'll play Nasri tonight.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/arsenal-boss-wenger-warns-man-city-i-will-play-nasri-udinese-1834231" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ ... se-1834231</a>

He'll be cup tied for you guys.

Mancini says we shouldn't play him as it would create a big problem.

<a class="postlink" href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/947105/man-city's-roberto-mancini:-arsenal's-samir-nasri-must-not-play?cc=3888" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ay?cc=3888</a>

I hope Wenger doesn't play him, because if it makes Mancini pull out, the we lose out on the 25mil and he goes for free at the end of the season, which really sucks. I'd rather we get the silly money and probably spend on another quality player who can sign long term.

Look regardless of what Wenger says or does if Nasri does not want to play he could declare himself unfit or whatever he wont be the first footballer have haver an injury - look at Cesc he has been permanently injured for all of preseason but played for Barca after his transfer - and if Nasri does play he does so because he wants to - this whole transfer is now in Nasri hands and it is Nasri and his agents that are creating this fookin stupid position
 
wireblue said:
VOOMER said:
This the same regime that allowed us to sign Santa Cruz and Joleon at a hugely inflated price and then we have Bridge at to much money. Ade I can forgive as he is on his day a quality player. It still can't distract from how we were so ready to allow us to buy a walking sick note for £3 million less than we are looking to pay for a much younger and far more gifted player. Regardless of agents fees, if you compare the urgency on the two deals, then you would have to come to a conclusion that we have some idiots on are side. Learning a lesson doesn't mean that you ignore the main area of concern, is the player a quality player, or not?

We should have gone for Frank Arnesen

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Arnesen</a>

If anyone can show me how Marwood has more to offer then show me.

More importantly what "is" his role, because Savic, was a signed on a Bobby contact and Kun has been tracked by the top clubs for 3 years and it would have been Cook who sold the dream, (if it needed selling, as Zab appears to have done that bit). I simply agree with bobby, the deal should have been done just like Kun's deal, at least a week before the community shield and as he is the one who will be flirted if it all goes pear shaped, I can understand why when targets are identified months in advance, that taking months, (Sanchez aside) would seem a little strange.

We made mistakes with players like santa cruz ( I would argue lescott has been a good signing considering he’s first choice centre half two years after he signed). However you’re contradicting yourself – you’re having a go at cook and marwood for making signings the manager (hughes) wanted and now you’re having a go at them for taking their time over signings that the manager wants (mancini).
The way the takeover happened it was inevitable that this situation was going to arise – we weren’t going to sign silva and aguero level players at the time we were signing adebayor and lescott.
Because of the rapid rate of improvement in our squad it was always going to be the case that players go left behind quicker than they would do at other times.
Offloading players is a headache but it was an almost inevitable by-product of us getting to where we are today in such a short space of time.
Personally I’m over the moon with the current situation with the club and squad. Cook, Marwood, Mancini, khaldoon and everyone else at the club have helped get us to the point where we are at now –FA cup holders and challenging for the title four years after we were relegation candidates. This kind of success would not be possible if there was such a cataclysmic weak link at the very top of our club/company.
If Marwood and cook – two of the most senior figures at the club – are as incapable as you suggest then there is no way we would currently be in the position we are in – both on the field and off it.

Agreed, I may have overeacted regarding Cook, but I just feel that we are applying a reversal of thought with regards to are current manager. He has a excellent CV, has great connections world wide and aside from Boetang has really bought a dud. If they against better judgement backed Hughes on potential, then on proven results, they should push forward with hast regarding the current requests and thats why I feel Marwood is on borrowed time.
 
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