Need another world class defender......

John fucking Stones

It won't happen in January.

Stones is overrated imo.

Not sure he'll ever be worth the price Everton want.

And your opinion is based off what, watching a couple of Everton games when they're on TV playing City?

He's going to be the best in the world. There's no doubt about it. He's already one of the best in the league. He's second to none with regards to ball control and he's only going to get better, which is scary. He's still got development to do with regards to purely defending, but he's still one of the best in the league.
 
Would love Stones at City.

Having Hart, Stones, Delph and Sterling would be a good core of English players which I think the club needs.

Barkley probably should be being watched for me as well.
 
Stones wouldn't do great in our current set up, however long term he's shaping up to be one of the best defenders in the game. in three years have a Stones-Denayer Pairing would be amazing.
 
It won't happen in January.



And your opinion is based off what, watching a couple of Everton games when they're on TV playing City?

He's going to be the best in the world. There's no doubt about it. He's already one of the best in the league. He's second to none with regards to ball control and he's only going to get better, which is scary. He's still got development to do with regards to purely defending, but he's still one of the best in the league.

My opinion is based on the same thing as every opinion people have on a footballer.

And the fact that you claim a defender is one of the best in the league already, and definitely will be one of the best in the world while still needing some development on his defending backs up my opinion that he is overrated.

Doesnt mean he is a bad footballer, or doesnt have potential, or win't make it. Just that people are getting a bit too far ahead of themselves with him.
 
My opinion is based on the same thing as every opinion people have on a footballer.

And the fact that you claim a defender is one of the best in the league already, and definitely will be one of the best in the world while still needing some development on his defending backs up my opinion that he is overrated.

Doesnt mean he is a bad footballer, or doesnt have potential, or win't make it. Just that people are getting a bit too far ahead of themselves with him.
Despite themselves for years it's been any decent English prospect = world class. Great white hope syndrome.
If he was black or French he'd be classed as promising but unproven.
 
Despite themselves for years it's been any decent English prospect = world class. Great white hope syndrome.
If he was black or French he'd be classed as promising but unproven.

problem is though its going to far the other way, people have the attitude now english players aren't any good, when in fact players like stones are more than good enough for us
 
Despite themselves for years it's been any decent English prospect = world class. Great white hope syndrome.
If he was black or French he'd be classed as promising but unproven.

Mangala is black, French, and had nowhere near the potential of Stones, yet cost us £42m. Pogba is also black and French and has a similar potential (imagine how good Stones would look in Serie A...) and we are told he's an £80m footballer. Taking into account the amount United paid for Martial, I think it's pretty clear that being 'black and/or French' means absolute premium rate.

problem is though its going to far the other way, people have the attitude now english players aren't any good, when in fact players like stones are more than good enough for us

That's the thing, people don't actually look at it subjectively; we've done very well with English players in the past few years. Hart is as good as any goalkeeper in Europe and hasn't even peaked yet; Delph is the latest who'll substantially contribute over the next few years, and he cost half of what Javi Garcia did.

One issue English football has is top clubs harbouring foreign mediocrity; Bertrand is better than both our leftbacks, Stones would be a first choice here now, despite being years away from our peak. Eric Dier already plays the anchor role with more class and intelligence than our Brazilian 'star' Fernando; he's like a bigger, more mobile version of Gareth Barry, with an identical passing game. Since Barkley has taken a step back into a more orthodox midfield 3 for Everton this season he looks special again; he's got all of the tools to replace Toure here eventually.

Even Rodwell looked quality when he did play for us under Mancini; people base their ignorant views on Scott Sinclair, one player who looked completely out of his depth but only cost us a few million anyway.

The talent pool for England from the age of 20 downwards is frightening; we are on the verge of being a European superpower internationally, but to accelerate the process we need more of our young players to be shown by the biggest clubs.
 

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