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Negredo allegedly signed
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Dzekolol
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Re: Negredo just signed
That's very good deal, love it.
LoveCity said:The fee is much lower than was being reported, only £16.4m up front with a few in future addons.
That's very good deal, love it.
01cravend
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I think the big difference between him and Dzeko is that Negredo will bust a gut to get on the end of a cross
Don't think i've ever seen Edin slide one in at the far post...Tap one in yes
I think the big difference between him and Dzeko is that Negredo will bust a gut to get on the end of a cross
Don't think i've ever seen Edin slide one in at the far post...Tap one in yes
Nicholas van Whatsisface
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People who are complaining that Negredo isn't a big enough name, and that we appear to be downgrading our striker options are, in my opinion, missing the point when it comes to building a team.
Comparing our (likely) current strikeforce with our old is very much an 'on paper' comparison, and anyone knows games aren't won on paper. It rarely works having four top class strikers vying for two (or, more often than not, one) position in the team. If you look at the actual composition of most of the groups of strikers at the top clubs, they aren't four stellar names - they are a team of strikers who have different roles, and compliment each other.
Look at Bayern, who swept all aside last season. They had Mandzukic, Gomez and a 34 year old Claudio Pizarro as their strikeforce. Would you genuinely have been excited about buying any of those?
Even the Rags had two star names in van Persie and Rooney, and two much lesser strikers in Wellbeck and Hernandez. Barca had Messi, Villa (who was out for most of the season) and Pedro. Juventus had a right gaggle of oddities, including Anelka, Bendtner, Giovinco and Quagliarella, headed up by their only genuinely first class striker in Vucinic.
In reality, having four big names - and big egos - doesn't work, and it didn't work for us last season, as neither Dzeko or Balotelli performed to their abilities because they were both pissed off with their roles in the team. We essentially managed two star strikers in Aguero and Tevez, and pissed the other two off - with negative repercussions on the whole team.
I see what we are doing here as building a properly functioning team, rather than a load of names which look good on paper. Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo as our out and out strikers, with Jovetic, Nasri and Silva as our supports, looks far better balanced than what we had last year.
People who are complaining that Negredo isn't a big enough name, and that we appear to be downgrading our striker options are, in my opinion, missing the point when it comes to building a team.
Comparing our (likely) current strikeforce with our old is very much an 'on paper' comparison, and anyone knows games aren't won on paper. It rarely works having four top class strikers vying for two (or, more often than not, one) position in the team. If you look at the actual composition of most of the groups of strikers at the top clubs, they aren't four stellar names - they are a team of strikers who have different roles, and compliment each other.
Look at Bayern, who swept all aside last season. They had Mandzukic, Gomez and a 34 year old Claudio Pizarro as their strikeforce. Would you genuinely have been excited about buying any of those?
Even the Rags had two star names in van Persie and Rooney, and two much lesser strikers in Wellbeck and Hernandez. Barca had Messi, Villa (who was out for most of the season) and Pedro. Juventus had a right gaggle of oddities, including Anelka, Bendtner, Giovinco and Quagliarella, headed up by their only genuinely first class striker in Vucinic.
In reality, having four big names - and big egos - doesn't work, and it didn't work for us last season, as neither Dzeko or Balotelli performed to their abilities because they were both pissed off with their roles in the team. We essentially managed two star strikers in Aguero and Tevez, and pissed the other two off - with negative repercussions on the whole team.
I see what we are doing here as building a properly functioning team, rather than a load of names which look good on paper. Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo as our out and out strikers, with Jovetic, Nasri and Silva as our supports, looks far better balanced than what we had last year.
Irwell
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Agreed, Optimus. Step one of the holistic approach if ever I saw it.
Agreed, Optimus. Step one of the holistic approach if ever I saw it.
Re: Negredo just signed
Could be a cracking bit of business.
LoveCity said:The fee is much lower than was being reported, only £16.4m up front with a few in future addons.
Could be a cracking bit of business.
Re: Negredo just signed
Underwhelmed. We've missed out on an opportunity here, Ibrahimovic was available but we've settled for a player in Negredo who will be fourth choice by the end of the season. £20m on a 27 year old fourth choice player? Not good. This 'holistic' approach where we cut out any problem players is really starting to grind on me, we could have secured Ibrahimovic on a three year deal and got two or three years of world class service from him.
Negredo isn't better than Dzeko, you'll all be sick of him within 12 months I can guarantee it. Our first choice line up should look like -
------------Aguero
Silva/Nasri--Jovetic--Silva/Navas
Which means we have back up in the form of Negredo and Dzeko, two similar players, and the only back up for that #10 spot is Nasri/Silva who lack goals. I'd much rather, if we're cost cutting and avoiding 'problem players', we used Guidetti for fourth choice, or signed a new, young striker to take that fourth choice spot.
Underwhelmed. We've missed out on an opportunity here, Ibrahimovic was available but we've settled for a player in Negredo who will be fourth choice by the end of the season. £20m on a 27 year old fourth choice player? Not good. This 'holistic' approach where we cut out any problem players is really starting to grind on me, we could have secured Ibrahimovic on a three year deal and got two or three years of world class service from him.
Negredo isn't better than Dzeko, you'll all be sick of him within 12 months I can guarantee it. Our first choice line up should look like -
------------Aguero
Silva/Nasri--Jovetic--Silva/Navas
Which means we have back up in the form of Negredo and Dzeko, two similar players, and the only back up for that #10 spot is Nasri/Silva who lack goals. I'd much rather, if we're cost cutting and avoiding 'problem players', we used Guidetti for fourth choice, or signed a new, young striker to take that fourth choice spot.
ell
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Would agree with that except Kompany who I thought had an excellent first season and he was played out of position too (Midfield)
Prestwich_Blue said:I'll make a judgement when I've seen him play for us a couple of seasons. That's generally the only time you can make a reasoned opinion. He many players looked great for us in their first season? Kompany, Zabaleta & Silva were average at best in their first season with us.bluestevei said:tbh ive never seen this player play, so I will make my judgement on him when ive seen him play for us a couple of times
Would agree with that except Kompany who I thought had an excellent first season and he was played out of position too (Midfield)
Re: Negredo just signed
Says more about the quality of our delivery imo. And the fact Dzeko's movement in the box is far superior to Negredo's. Dzeko is very proactive in the box.01cravend said:I think the big difference between him and Dzeko is that Negredo will bust a gut to get on the end of a cross
Don't think i've ever seen Edin slide one in at the far post...Tap one in yes
MCFC BOB
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The happy flappers won't be flappy happy flappers now.LoveCity said:The fee is much lower than was being reported, only £16.4m up front with a few in future addons.
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