Negredo

Unfortunate that he had to leave. Was sensational in the first part of last season but drifted away due to injuries. This seems like a mutual decision and I wish him the best in his future career.

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Pellegrini has commented about Negredo sale.....Sorry couldn't copy and paste but link from twitter below! From this, City knew Negredo wanted to go from Jan.......We have no excuse for not having a replacement signed.....leaving us short(no cover) when we knew the issues, just shows lack of planning....


Pellegrini had the final say on Negredo's exit according to the Daily Mail's Martin Samuel. Some insight: pic.twitter.com/5zo0t2u5ek

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Mancitybluemoon1 said:
Pellegrini has commented about Negredo sale.....Sorry couldn't copy and paste but link from twitter below! From this, City knew Negredo wanted to go from Jan.......We have no excuse for not having a replacement signed.....leave us short when we knew the issues, just shows lack of planning....


Pellegrini had the final say on Negredo's exit according to the Daily Mail's Martin Samuel. Some insight: pic.twitter.com/5zo0t2u5ek

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That's very presumptuous. How do you know we haven't planned for this? Ian Nacho could be in the plans to be used as fourth striker.
 
Well, if you take this report as being correct....Negredo gone BUT.....don't worry everything is fine...Sinclair is set to be submitted into CL squad! What a joke!!!

Analysis: Why did City let Alvaro Negredo go?

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Why have Pellegrini, and executives Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain, sanctioned the sale of Alvaro Negredo even when it became clear there would be no incoming replacement?

Two players for every position. That was Manuel Pellegrini’s mantra when he took over at City - and the club’s transfer policy has reflected his thinking.

But in this transfer window the Blues appear to have abandoned that policy, and will embark on the first half of the season, at least, with three strikers rather than four.

So why have Pellegrini, and executives Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain, sanctioned the sale of Alvaro Negredo even when it became clear there would be no incoming replacement?

The wisdom of that decision will only become apparent over the course of the season – and depends to some extent on Sergio Aguero and Stevan Jovetic avoiding the injury troubles that affected them last season.

Both players, and the City medical staff, are confident a new training regime aimed at strengthening hamstrings and core muscles will combat the difficulties that saw Aguero miss important parts of last season, and made Jovetic’s debut campaign a non-event.

If they do not, Edin Dzeko could end up as the only recognised striker, and many City fans were puzzled and angered by the decision.

Negredo was a hero to supporters in the first half of last season, scoring 23 goals in his first 33 games and forming a lethal partnership with Aguero.

He also had a work rate and aggression up front that the Blues have missed since Carlos Tevez left.

‘The Beast’ put the animal into a cultured City side, without detracting from its technical quality.

But after suffering a shoulder injury, the season subsided for Negredo.

In the second half of the campaign his form suffered and he was fourth choice striker by the end of it.

Talk of his homesickness is over-blown, but he clearly missed his homeland and was open to a move if the right deal came along.

That alerted several top clubs, with Real Madrid, Valencia and Atletico Madrid all interested.
City’s initial reaction was that he was not for sale. But when it became plain Negredo wanted to go, and that the club could make a profit after buying him for an initial £16.4m, it became a reality.

The Blues wanted a replacement, but when Radamel Falcao’s wage demands made him a no-no in an era when they are cutting wage bills and spending, the club hierarchy decided it was an offer too good to refuse.

City are not the club of six years ago, needing to spend lavishly to compete for trophies and join the European elite.

Forget Uefa’s financial fair play rules, the intention always was that the Blues would eventually live within their means following Sheikh Mansour’s initial, fabulous investment.

Selling Negredo for almost twice the amount they paid for him is cold, hard business – his loan deal includes a commitment to buy from Valencia, themselves newly rich from the investment of new owner Peter Lim.

Of course, there were also football considerations, not least Pellegrini’s desire to have two players in every position.

Scott Sinclair is set to be included in the squads submitted for the Champions League and Premier League. There is also the prospect of Nigerian youngster Kelechi Iheanacho , who made such an impact in the pre-season tour of the United States, adding to the mix.

City will try to get him a work permit once he turns 18 next month, although he perhaps needs work with Patrick Vieira’s elite development squad before he comes into the first-team reckoning.

So how will Pellegrini make up for the loss of Negredo?

Arguably, City play with a sole striker in any case, as one usually drops deep. Some of City’s best performances last season came with one advanced striker, and another in the hole behind.

Aguero, Dzeko and Jovetic can all perform that role but, more pertinently in Pellegrini’s thinking, so can David Silva, Samir Nasri and Yaya Toure.

The purchase this summer of Fernando, an out-and-out defensive midfielder, means it is even more secure and balanced to play that system.

Pellegrini is keeping his cards close to his chest, but it would be no surprise to see the Blues line up at Bayern Munich in the Champions League with a five-man midfield.

With the players City have, that is not an abandonment of their attacking philosophy, but simply a prudent tweaking of it, born out of the lessons they have been handed in Europe in the last three seasons.
 
Why is submitting Sinclair in the CL squad a joke? He counts as HG and I don't think we are filling that quota. So rather have a player than none.
 
kupest said:
Why is submitting Sinclair in the CL squad a joke? He counts as HG and I don't think we are filling that quota. So rather have a player than none.
Ignore the clown above mate....
 
interesting - could have to get the sackcloth and ashes out

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Sounds like a tax issue?

His drop off in form is also correlated by Samuel to the time of year, January.

Spanish tax authorities have been cleaning house these last couple of years and plenty examples of players who are getting knocks at the door.

He's no Messi, won't have £50m on deposit in his bank account.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sounds like a tax issue?

His drop off in form is also correlated by Samuel to the time of year, January.

Spanish tax authorities have been cleaning house these last couple of years and plenty examples of players who are getting knocks at the door.

He's no Messi, won't have £50m on deposit in his bank account.

Interesting, so are we saying that he needed a signing on fee to help him out of whatever financial quandary he found himself in?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sounds like a tax issue?

His drop off in form is also correlated by Samuel to the time of year, January.

Spanish tax authorities have been cleaning house these last couple of years and plenty examples of players who are getting knocks at the door.

He's no Messi, won't have £50m on deposit in his bank account.
what do you mean mate.
 
Puteulanus luna said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sounds like a tax issue?

His drop off in form is also correlated by Samuel to the time of year, January.

Spanish tax authorities have been cleaning house these last couple of years and plenty examples of players who are getting knocks at the door.

He's no Messi, won't have £50m on deposit in his bank account.
what do you mean mate.


Was simply posing the question?

January is a big tax month in this country and his drop off in form is also cited with that time of year by Samuel.

If it is indeed a family financial issue, it has to be pretty serious for someone who was probably earning best part of £4m a year at City.

He had left Spain just months earlier, perhaps there was some sort of tax liability he still had over there?

If there was, I would have expected City to have helped him sort it if he needed cash!

It's a strange hint from Samuel, who doesn't generally deal in hints, although he has clearly been given an official off-record steer for Negredo's departure.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Puteulanus luna said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sounds like a tax issue?

His drop off in form is also correlated by Samuel to the time of year, January.

Spanish tax authorities have been cleaning house these last couple of years and plenty examples of players who are getting knocks at the door.

He's no Messi, won't have £50m on deposit in his bank account.
what do you mean mate.


Was simply posing the question?

January is a big tax month in this country and his drop off in form is also cited with that time of year by Samuel.

If it is indeed a family financial issue, it has to be pretty serious for someone who was probably earning best part of £4m a year at City.

He had left Spain just months earlier, perhaps there was some sort of tax liability he still had over there?

If there was, I would have expected City to have helped him sort it if he needed cash!

It's a strange hint from Samuel, who doesn't generally deal in hints, although he has clearly been given an official off-record steer for Negredo's departure.
Cheers
 
Puteulanus luna said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Puteulanus luna said:
what do you mean mate.


Was simply posing the question?

January is a big tax month in this country and his drop off in form is also cited with that time of year by Samuel.

If it is indeed a family financial issue, it has to be pretty serious for someone who was probably earning best part of £4m a year at City.

He had left Spain just months earlier, perhaps there was some sort of tax liability he still had over there?

If there was, I would have expected City to have helped him sort it if he needed cash!

It's a strange hint from Samuel, who doesn't generally deal in hints, although he has clearly been given an official off-record steer for Negredo's departure.
Cheers

Am I missing something but I don't understand why Negredo would return to Spain if he had a tax issue with the government? Also no tax issue for a multimillionaire footballer is so big it can't be paid by them! Isn't it more likely he was unsettled, or rathe this family were, and he agreed with them he would stay for season and then return to Spain if the situation hadn't got any better?
 
bugsyblue said:
Puteulanus luna said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Was simply posing the question?

January is a big tax month in this country and his drop off in form is also cited with that time of year by Samuel.

If it is indeed a family financial issue, it has to be pretty serious for someone who was probably earning best part of £4m a year at City.

He had left Spain just months earlier, perhaps there was some sort of tax liability he still had over there?

If there was, I would have expected City to have helped him sort it if he needed cash!

It's a strange hint from Samuel, who doesn't generally deal in hints, although he has clearly been given an official off-record steer for Negredo's departure.
Cheers

Am I missing something but I don't understand why Negredo would return to Spain if he had a tax issue with the government? Also no tax issue for a multimillionaire footballer is so big it can't be paid by them! Isn't it more likely he was unsettled, or rathe this family were, and he agreed with them he would stay for season and then return to Spain if the situation hadn't got any better?

That would seem more plausible but why would Samuel mention the financial issue? Can't imagine he just plucked it out of thin air.
 
bugsyblue said:
Puteulanus luna said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Was simply posing the question?

January is a big tax month in this country and his drop off in form is also cited with that time of year by Samuel.

If it is indeed a family financial issue, it has to be pretty serious for someone who was probably earning best part of £4m a year at City.

He had left Spain just months earlier, perhaps there was some sort of tax liability he still had over there?

If there was, I would have expected City to have helped him sort it if he needed cash!

It's a strange hint from Samuel, who doesn't generally deal in hints, although he has clearly been given an official off-record steer for Negredo's departure.
Cheers

Am I missing something but I don't understand why Negredo would return to Spain if he had a tax issue with the government? Also no tax issue for a multimillionaire footballer is so big it can't be paid by them! Isn't it more likely he was unsettled, or rathe this family were, and he agreed with them he would stay for season and then return to Spain if the situation hadn't got any better?


Not according to Samuel, who can rely on being briefed by City when he requires it.

A family financial problem is the reason for his sale, with Pellegrini sanctioning it on compassionate grounds.

There is absolutely no reason for Samuel to make any reference to this in his column unless City needed to get it out there.

As for players and tax issues, you would be surprised. Most players might have a couple of million quid in folding, but most is tied up in assets or taken by tax or National Insurance.

All these Bentleys and Porsches you see these guys driving, you seriously think they own them?

They lease them and hand them back when something else takes their fancy.

If the tax man knocked on the door of the average Premier League footballer and demanded something like £3m in cash, they would shit themselves.

John Arne Risse used to earn £80k a week at Liverpool, didn't stop him being made bankrupt for taxes unpaid.

£150,000 a week John Terry? Was teetering on the brink until he sold the house he developed to a Qatari for £15m last summer.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
bugsyblue said:
Puteulanus luna said:

Am I missing something but I don't understand why Negredo would return to Spain if he had a tax issue with the government? Also no tax issue for a multimillionaire footballer is so big it can't be paid by them! Isn't it more likely he was unsettled, or rathe this family were, and he agreed with them he would stay for season and then return to Spain if the situation hadn't got any better?


Not according to Samuel, who can rely on being briefed by City when he requires it.

A family financial problem is the reason for his sale, with Pellegrini sanctioning it on compassionate grounds.

There is absolutely no reason for Samuel to make any reference to this in his column unless City needed to get it out there.

As for players and tax issues, you would be surprised. Most players might have a couple of million quid in folding, but most is tied up in assets or taken by tax or National Insurance.

All these Bentleys and Porsches you see these guys driving, you seriously think they own them?

They lease them and hand them back when something else takes their fancy.

If the tax man knocked on the door of the average Premier League footballer and demanded something like £3m in cash, they would shit themselves.

John Arne Risse used to earn £80k a week at Liverpool, didn't stop him being made bankrupt for taxes unpaid.

£150,000 a week John Terry? Was teetering on the brink until he sold the house he developed to a Qatari for £15m last summer.

always staggered by the ineptitude of these players

the money some of these prem players are on they could put half away into savings/pension pot and still live the life we could only dream of
 
tonea2003 said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
bugsyblue said:
Am I missing something but I don't understand why Negredo would return to Spain if he had a tax issue with the government? Also no tax issue for a multimillionaire footballer is so big it can't be paid by them! Isn't it more likely he was unsettled, or rathe this family were, and he agreed with them he would stay for season and then return to Spain if the situation hadn't got any better?


Not according to Samuel, who can rely on being briefed by City when he requires it.

A family financial problem is the reason for his sale, with Pellegrini sanctioning it on compassionate grounds.

There is absolutely no reason for Samuel to make any reference to this in his column unless City needed to get it out there.

As for players and tax issues, you would be surprised. Most players might have a couple of million quid in folding, but most is tied up in assets or taken by tax or National Insurance.

All these Bentleys and Porsches you see these guys driving, you seriously think they own them?

They lease them and hand them back when something else takes their fancy.

If the tax man knocked on the door of the average Premier League footballer and demanded something like £3m in cash, they would shit themselves.

John Arne Risse used to earn £80k a week at Liverpool, didn't stop him being made bankrupt for taxes unpaid.

£150,000 a week John Terry? Was teetering on the brink until he sold the house he developed to a Qatari for £15m last summer.

always staggered by the ineptitude of these players

the money some of these prem players are on they could put half away into savings/pension pot and still live the life we could only dream of
They do put a sizable amount into pension funds but they can't get their hands on it until they are at least 35 (barring a David Busst type situation) iirc.
 
adrianr said:
Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:
Interesting:

By lunchtime on transfer deadline day, Alvaro Negredo was bound for Valencia. A conference call between executives at Manchester City had confirmed the move, with manager Manuel Pellegrini having the final say.

Negredo had made an outstanding start to his career in the Premier League, but then his stay turned sour. It was a personal financial matter and nothing to do with football, but it meant Negredo and his wife, Clara, were no longer happy in their new country. It is even possible to spot the moment when Negredo’s dissatisfaction begins and his form falls off a cliff. He scores 26 goals up to January 21, and none after.

Pellegrini’s view was a compassionate one. He knew Negredo’s departure would leave City short up front, but felt the player was as good as lost to the club, even if he stayed. It would be kinder to let him go home. If required, Yaya Toure or David Silva could be pushed into a more forward role. Anyway, the offer from Valencia was a good one: £25million, plus add-ons. With an eye on the demands of financial fair play, this was sensible business for City.

From Martin Samuel in the Daily Fascist.

I don't suppose this was anything to do with those rumours of him rubbing up someone the wrong way in town? Or something. I don't fucking know its nearly 5am.


What rumours are these?
 

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