New England kit for Euro '24

[meltonblue]

I realize that many feel the St George Cross has been co-opted by nationalist bigots, but that doesn’t change the fact that the NATIONAL EMBLEM is still the national emblem and should be respected.

It is ironic that a USA-based company has done this and given their ridiculous reasons, when if a British company had done this with a USA national jersey, they’d be getting pilloried and boycotted!

If I was a player, I’d simply cut it out of the collar (while I was cutting big fucking holes in my socks because cramp has suddenly become a new and destructive force in football!!!).

It really is simple: The nation’s flag on a national team jersey should be a red cross on a white background and the last thing a FOREIGN COMPANY should be doing is “stylizing” a national emblem of significance.

To be quite honest, even though I usually like the blue jerseys, I can’t fathom why it’s not always a white first kit and a red second kit, with a blue(?) third kit if there’s still a colour clash?!

Nike should be forced to change it.

I understand the pricing issue, but it’s right in line with team jerseys, so that’s nothing new. Every club wants the $50-100M sponsorship money, but no-one wants to pay the cost to cover the deal. Oh well, don’t buy the jersey!

There has never been a St George’s cross on an England shirt that directly matches the flag though, there have been multiple that have changed the flags colours though. I’ve got no idea why suddenly everyone is up in arms about it (well I do, but that’s for a different thread)

I doubt Nike thought there would have been the furore there has been tbh given what’s been on it before that didn’t generate any noise at all at the time.

 

[meltonblue]

Seems like nobody cares anymore about tradition, rituals, loyalty to country, conventions etc. a bit sad really. I don’t like it much but can see what’s happening.

I’d argue the opposite, seems like everybody suddenly cares about what they think are traditions.

 

[Mon Autre]

Seems like nobody cares anymore about tradition, rituals, loyalty to country, conventions etc. a bit sad really. I don’t like it much but can see what’s happening.

Actually don't think this is true. There's been a huge resurgence in popularity around British folklore in recent years. What people are rejecting is bigotry and nationalism. Also never ceases to amaze how little the "we want our country back" brigade know about our country's ancient and medieval traditions.

 

[Jimmieblue]

I’d argue the opposite, seems like everybody suddenly cares about what they think are traditions.

I know what traditions are, and other countries seem to be able to carry on theirs quite happily.

 

[jamielowndes]

Seems like nobody cares anymore about tradition, rituals, loyalty to country, conventions etc. a bit sad really. I don’t like it much but can see what’s happening.

The colours were chosen as an homage to the 1966 team and their training gear.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

I remember the days when we had proper controversy. It was much more fun when people got irate because The Shamen sang E's are good, on top of the pops.
We have turned into a bunch of pussies.
No one has got a pot to piss in and our politicians are wasting time, moaning about the colour of a flag, on a t-shirt.

 

[Jimmieblue]

Actually don't think this is true. There's been a huge resurgence in popularity around British folklore in recent years. What people are rejecting is bigotry and nationalism. Also never ceases to amaze how little the "we want our country back" brigade know about our country's ancient and medieval traditions.

I think you are assuming quite a lot there. If you believe that incorporating a multicoloured, imitation flag on the collar of a football shirt will change the attitude of the bigots/nationalists in this country you are amazing me.

 

[bluemoon32]

Sorry to hear that mate, hope your ok and go on to make a full recovery.

Ha, could be worse, i could share my nationality with dippers, cockneys & brummies

 

[WestGorton]

I like the design. Up until 2000 ish everyone carried the union Jack at England games such is the naivety. Fuss over nothing.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Seems like nobody cares anymore about tradition, rituals, loyalty to country, conventions etc. a bit sad really. I don’t like it much but can see what’s happening.

10 years ago. no one gave a shit.



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