Newcastle fans

jrb said:
It’s not the club, it’s the fans.

Throughout our lows(and highs) we’ve never had their arragoance or attitude of ‘we’re the best football fans in the World’. ‘We’re a bigger club than you’. And the irony of chanting ‘where were you when you were shit’, ‘empty seats’, and being serious and deluded about it. You can bundle Newcastle fans in with Liverpool and Celtic fans about their perceived self-importance. And (apperently) everybody loves a Geordie?
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Haven't City always been a bigger club than Newcastle when it comes down to it? They were seen as a big club in the early days of the PL just because they are well supported locally(can't recall seeing any Newcastle shirts outside of Newcastle even back then) but considering their population and the fact they have no direct city rival that's nothing to shout about really is it?

They have 4 league wins that none of their support will remember since they all came before the 1930s arrived, never been a success in Europe either, so I don't really know where the idea that they are that big even came from. I suppose they do sit in 9th place in the all time top flight table which is something and shows they have been in the mix a long time, way behind us though:
https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_table/eng-premier-league/

Nothing against them personally mind, just find their attitude towards City a bit rich, far too cocky for the size of club they really are and it's not like City fans go round calling anyone small either. So where does the chip they have on their shoulder come from?
 
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Metalartin said:
Haven't City always been a bigger club than Newcastle when it comes down to it? They were seen as a big club in the early days of the PL just because they are well supported locally(can't recall seeing any Newcastle shirts outside of Newcastle even back then) but considering their population and the fact they have no direct city rival that's nothing to shout about really is it?

They have 4 league wins that none of their support will remember since they all came before the 1930s arrived, never been a success in Europe either, so I don't really know where the idea that they are that big even came from.

Nothing against them personally mind, just find their attitude towards City a bit rich, far too cocky for the size of club they really are and it's not like City fans go round calling anyone small either. So where does the chip they have on their shoulder come from?
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I think you'll find they won the European Fairs Cup in 1969, and the Anglo Italian Cup in 1973.
 
crazyg said:
The Fairs Cup was the third most prestigious competition behind the European Cup and the Cup Winners Cup. It morphed in to the UEFA Cup and is now the Europa Cup. The Cup Winners Cup disappeared. I think we once played in the Anglo Italian Cup, so it must have been prestigious!
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Haha ok I'll play along, since there may be some Geordies who actually believe this judging by their increasingly bin dipper like mindset.

I wasn't aware of the Anglo Italian Cup(what's next the Audi Cup/Emirates Cup?) but I did notice the former, it's something I guess but I wouldn't say a cup like that makes any club "a success in Europe"(our European Cup Winners Cup's better than that too... just sayin' like) especially since it was initially only open to clubs for cities that hosted trade fairs(hence the name) and was later dubbed "the runners up cup".

Maybe we should start using our European Cup Winners Cup win more though, who knows? Maybe we're doing it wrong.
 
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Metalartin said:
Haha ok I'll play along.

I wasn't aware of the Anglo Italian Cup(what's next the Audi Cup/Emirates Cup?) but I did notice the former, it's something I guess but I wouldn't say a cup like that makes any club "a success in Europe"(our European Cup Winners Cup's better than that too... just sayin' like) especially since it was initially only open to clubs for cities that hosted trade fairs(hence the name) and was later dubbed "the runners up cup".

Maybe we should start using our European Cup Winners Cup win more though, who knows? Maybe we're doing it wrong.
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I think the A-E cup was by invitation, just like all pre-season tournaments. So, yes, it was slightly tongue in cheek. Since the demise of the Cup Winners Cup, which, surprisingly, was purely for the winners of the FA cup or it's national equivalent, all FA cup winners go in the Europa, as do the League Cup (or whatever they name it) winners. Before that, the League cup winners went into the UEFA cup. Historically the Fairs/UEFA cup was harder to win, I believe.
 
crazyg said:
Historically the Fairs/UEFA cup was harder to win, I believe.
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Subjective, depends who they were up against doesn't it? I'm not aware of which big clubs wouldn't have qualified the "open trade" cities part to be fair, but again "the runners up cup" should tell you something about the level of prestige it was held in, like you say it was behind the European Cup and the European Cup Winners Cup in that regard.

Regardless that competition isn't even officially recognised by UEFA, so they don't even count it against a club's European record themselves(so they clearly don't see the UEFA Cup as a successor). For me it's a bit of a none starter using it to claim European success(even if you could consider 1 cup many moons ago a success) considering everything going against it.

Perhaps I might see it differently had we won one of those, then again much like the European Cup Winners Cup it's nice to be able to say we won a European trophy of sorts but it would be embarrassing to make any more of it than that.
 
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I remember reading an article by Oliver Holt a few years ago about Newcastle and City. Wish I could find it now. It mentioned the differences in the support and loyalty of the fans. He tore the Geordies a new one.
Had a rosette once that said........DOYLE EATS MAGPIES.
 
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