Newcastle post match thread

goalmole said:
It's probably just me. I'm sorry, I can't put individual players on pedestals. I love them all, while they are wearing sky blue, to a point. In the end they are professionals who will look after their own interests first. If a better opportunity arises for them to further their career or financial package then they're off down the road sharpish. I respect that.
The player you mentioned in your previous post left less because of the position he wanted to play and more for the 10 million signing on fee that he reportedly got. Again, he has been slagged off to high heaven on this forum, and indeed booed for doing it. I, personally, don't have a problem with him doing what he did. He's a professional, he looks after his career and interests, I respect that, we move on. Similarly I would rather evaluate a players contributions by what they did on the pitch rather than some perceived notion of what a nice guy he was or wasn't. I respect players and have a certain affection for them after they leave. Just don't have a cloying emotional attachment to them.
We don't owe them anything, they don't owe us anything. As long as they give their all while they are here, I'm happy.
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I don’t have a problem with Milner either, though I think you are simplifying the reason for his departure unless you think he was being disengenuous. I’d never boo any ex City player save Barton in fact. But Kompany is different. He’s the one player I can think of for whom I will always have a cloying affection, but not for what he did on the pitch, but for who he is as a person.
 
It wasn’t the best game of the season to watch that’s for sure. Too many of us off the pace a little + the missing players = a win but not a great performance. + for me were Ota, who I would have given motm to, Raheem and Kev we’re both ok although Kev’s intensity was nowhere near the Spuds level. Thought Danilo had a good enough game. - Kun, Gundogan, Bernardo we’re all significantly below their best. Gabby worked hard but we are missing the goal machine that first started. He doesn’t really seem to be getting into goal scoring positions either. Obviously sorry for Vinnie but disappointed that he waited until he was sat next to our 2 youngest players on the bench before launching into a fawltyesque rant and generally howling at the moon. Whilst I have sympathy, it looked like he scared the shit out of Leroy and Brahim. Could have done that in the privacy of the dressing room.
Another win away when we were not playing well is title winning form. CP may give us more of a game. Hope so.
 
yankblue said:
A few observations:
  • If you can't enjoy a game like this, I'm not sure what you want as a football fan. 18 wins in a row with world class players all over the pitch. Not every game is going to be a 5-0 spanking. When they attacked us and the game opened up, it was nervy but that's what this game is all about. We can't bitch when opponents sit 10 men behind the ball and then bitch when they attack, too
  • I fear for some posters when we finally do lose or draw. Ric should sticky the Manchester suicide hotline just in case
  • Not our best but job done…that being said, need to make these chances count. Aguero not NEARLY as poor as he was made out to be, though
  • I am actually starting to get comfortable with Mangala coming on, good on him
  • Newcastle has the ugliest fucking team I've ever seen
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Well said,fully agree with all.

Also excellent goal line clearance by Otamendi, so solid at the back!
Feel like Jesus desperately needs a goal
 
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Thought we missed a few good chances to put it to bed early on and as a result made the last 10 minutes a very nervous occasion but we ground out a great result and move on 15 points clear

Right at the end of the show on sky we had a trailer for the class of 92 which followed the city game to which Carragher said “I’m really getting bored of this (class of 92) now”. The presenter thanked him for towing the company line. Good on you Carra
 
TheThirdDeano said:
Did anyone else think it was a foul on otamendi when that player made absolutely no effort to not flatten him out after he cleared the ball of the line?
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Absolutely. Heroic defending from the Ots but no one seemed to point out the fact the player coming in clattered him.
 
A 1-0 win with Kompany injured early and no Silva over busy Christmas period against a team set up to not concede and then really fighting at the end, due to being near the bottom, is a great win. Showed resiliance. We missed ferny in the middle of the park. I think Pep got it right though as Gabby was a threat that allowed Aguero more space. We created plenty and conceded few chances. Cannot be unhappy with that in an away game.

I was saying to my cousin a few weeks ago, before the derby, that City were miles ahead of the rags simply based on chances conceded. De Gea is always near the top of the saves made chart. That is telling because it shows he has to make a hell of a lot of them. In recent weeks we are seeing that he cannot save everything and the rags have been punished. The gap is now about what it should be in terms of the gulf in sides.

The main surprise for me is that they are still second because Chelsea should be closer, and Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool should be above them.
 
Honest assessment was that we were shite last night. Worst performance of the season. Tempo was slow, concentration was abysmal at times. All the passing in our build up was slow or underhit or played too far behind or ahead of the intended target. Players were constantly having to adjust to receive the ball. We were shocking in front of goal although we somehow managed to put away our most difficult chance.

That said, we won comfortably. In reality 4-0 Would have been a fair reflection. I think Newcastle's tactics created our complacency at times. They took all urgency out of the game by applying zero pressure on us. It felt like players were constantly looking ahead to assess their options which resulted in them not concentrating on the pass they were making or receiving.

Sterling though, was excellent. De Bruyne had a quietish game but played two remarkable passes. Gundogan was ok, Bernardo offered little again, Jesus ran a lot but offered little quality. I thought Kun was unlucky with a few. Danilo looked like a terrible footballer and I thought Walker looked like a brain fact waiting to happen last night.

I'm aware how critical this post is and on one hand it's testament to how good we are and how much we have been spoilt, that there's room moan after an 18th straight win. But there were a few signs of complacency last night. When we have to set our own tempo, I think we sometimes struggle to look as crisp as we do when the game is played at a higher pace.

Overall though, 18 in a row is ridiculous. Utterly amazing run.
 
ono said:
Honest assessment was that we were shite last night. Worst performance of the season. Tempo was slow, concentration was abysmal at times. All the passing in our build up was slow or underhit or played too far behind or ahead of the intended target. Players were constantly having to adjust to receive the ball. We were shocking in front of goal although we somehow managed to put away our most difficult chance.

That said, we won comfortably. In reality 4-0 Would have been a fair reflection. I think Newcastle's tactics created our complacency at times. They took all urgency out of the game by applying zero pressure on us. It felt like players were constantly looking ahead to assess their options which resulted in them not concentrating on the pass they were making or receiving.

Sterling though, was excellent. De Bruyne had a quietish game but played two remarkable passes. Gundogan was ok, Bernardo offered little again, Jesus ran a lot but offered little quality. I thought Kun was unlucky with a few. Danilo looked like a terrible footballer and I thought Walker looked like a brain fact waiting to happen last night.

I'm aware how critical this post is and on one hand it's testament to how good we are and how much we have been spoilt, that there's room moan after an 18th straight win. But there were a few signs of complacency last night. When we have to set our own tempo, I think we sometimes struggle to look as crisp as we do when the game is played at a higher pace.

Overall though, 18 in a row is ridiculous. Utterly amazing run.
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80% possession, 16 goal attempts v their 6, hit the woodwork 3 times, a world class save from their goalie, says more about how good we have been in previous games, shite is too harsh
 
I reckon Pep will be fuming after that tbh. Not the first hour, where we were good but wasteful, but the last half hour where we let how shit Newcastle had been lull us into dropping our tempo when the game wasn't done and dusted and we could easily have been punished for that.
 
BigOscar said:
I reckon Pep will be fuming after that tbh. Not the first hour, where we were good but wasteful, but the last half hour where we let how shit Newcastle had been lull us into dropping our tempo when the game wasn't done and dusted and we could easily have been punished for that.
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That was clearly Benitez’s strategy and it nearly worked. He knew that they couldn’t compete so his aim was to keep it to a manageable scoreline until the last 10 mins then have a go. By then we were lulled into playing a slow game and the increase in tempo could have caught us out but they weren’t good enough. Not the best match to watch but you can’t blame opposing teams for these tactics. They’ve tried everything and so far and still haven’t found a way to stop us.
 
ono said:
Honest assessment was that we were shite last night. Worst performance of the season
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Worst performance of the season ... agree

We were shite... no chance

We can’t win every game playing football of a quality that has never been seen in the PL before and the fact it was our worst performance is testament to how utterly brilliant we have been so far

Very very pleasing to take the 3 points in a tricky game in freezing conditions when we were nowhere near our best and were missing key players
 
Haven't seen the highlights yet, and there seems to be some debate over Aguero being offside or not. But what about the Jesus chance in the 2nd half when he rounded their keeper. Was it offside? From the stand it looked like he held the line really well, but hard to tell from behind goal!
 
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