Chris Holmes
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The Toon had more tactical fouls than we ever did in our Tactical Fouling Pomp. If it had been City, they would be screaming for reds.
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The Toon had more tactical fouls than we ever did in our Tactical Fouling Pomp. If it had been City, they would be screaming for reds.
Lavinda Past
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Don't be daft. He was shit today, he'll be great against PalaceI take it we have Foden as the new scapegoat now.lol.
He's just a kid who needs to learn how to play with a proper striker.
oakiecokie
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I`ve been beating the drum ref this lad from the moment he signed and he was given a bit of a rough ride by some of our supporters mainly due to the fact that he didn`t come from a "fashionable club".Is Ake right now our best defender genuine question. He's been brilliant last season and started this season brilliantly
The lad has been immense for us for months now.
No Newcastle sliced through Kyle's side today.Don’t people see the problem with Rodri in games like these? When we have the ball with 70-80% possesion in games, he’s loving life. With time on his side and no pressure from the opposition, he could pick out anyone to pass to. But in games like these when they are closing him down, his weaknesses are shown very clearly. His defensive contributions are a problem. That’s always been my view.
Not saying this is on him, but Newcastle just sliced through our midfield today.
Colin Bells Boots
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What have we ever done to Hinchcliffe? Is the big chinned tw*t just bitter because he played for us pre takeover? (Not that it is an issue, should be honoured to wear our badge no matter the era)
He's just a bitter **** who doesn't have a decent word to say about City .
He's the one with the problem so fuck him.
Dribble
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Newcastle got a deserved draw. From minute one they played like the team with something to prove, & we just continued at our comfortable early season pace.
It was evident very early that Newcastle were targeting Rodri by closing him down & giving him zero time on the ball. They were also targeting the space Walker leaves in behind when he plays centrally.
With St Maximin driving into that space, Joelinton kept bombing down the right to give St Maximin the choice of playing the ball back out to the wing, or driving inside, & we just never dealt with this tactic & it kept causing us a whole heap of problems.
They eventually scored by closing down a dawdling Rodri & playing the ball into our vacated right back space, & this is how their first two goals originated.
In my opinion Rodri was to blame for their first two goals, as he keeps having lapses of thinking he's got all the time in the world when on the ball.
TWICE he waited for passes to come to him instead of advancing to meet the ball & twice a Newcastle player nipped in & took the ball off his toes which put us under heavy pressure.
At times we looked in disarray defensively, & just like Chelsea with Leeds earlier, we struggled to pick up the pace & match the opposition's intensity.
You could see this match meant everything to the Geordies, but we approached it like a standard PL game & it wasn't until after Trippier's free kick midway through the second half that we started to match their intensity & it was only then our extra quality told.
We scored the two goals to equalise & it became evident Newcastle were gonna be happy with a draw & were playing us on the counter & taking few defensive risks, unlike in the first.
When Rodri FINALLY upped his intensity, we began to tick & then it clicked & Newcastle were firmly of the mind of what we have, we hold.
I've no issues with the straight red being rescinded, as I was surprised when the card was shown. A yellow was the correct call.
I had a feeling of foreboding about this match, ESPECIALLY as the media kept playing up the "Almiron" comment from Grealish at the end of the season. I'd suggest that was the reason he wasn't in the squad & not because of a knock he received last weekend.
I reckon the Grealish comment & Newcastle wanting to test where they really are as a football team were the primary reasons why they played like this was a title or relegation decider.
Haaland played his best game for us today, by dropping deeper to add to our midfield numbers which created spaces where their central defence didn't know whether to advance to track him, or to drop off & leave the defensive midfielders to drop deep to cover him. Either way, he kept creating spaces for us to play in & was more involved in the game.
Overall it was our failure to raise our tempo to match Newcastle's until it was too late & Rodri's fuckin dawdling on the ball which ultimately cost us today. On reflection we got what we deserved, but at least we didn't drop all three points which was a distinct possibility based on our first half display.
Hopefully this is the wakeup call we needed to know we have to fight fire with fire for the whole game, or in the PL there's a good chance it will cost us. Gutted to lose two valuable points, but relieved to get one. :-|
Roll on Wednesday...
It was evident very early that Newcastle were targeting Rodri by closing him down & giving him zero time on the ball. They were also targeting the space Walker leaves in behind when he plays centrally.
With St Maximin driving into that space, Joelinton kept bombing down the right to give St Maximin the choice of playing the ball back out to the wing, or driving inside, & we just never dealt with this tactic & it kept causing us a whole heap of problems.
They eventually scored by closing down a dawdling Rodri & playing the ball into our vacated right back space, & this is how their first two goals originated.
In my opinion Rodri was to blame for their first two goals, as he keeps having lapses of thinking he's got all the time in the world when on the ball.
TWICE he waited for passes to come to him instead of advancing to meet the ball & twice a Newcastle player nipped in & took the ball off his toes which put us under heavy pressure.
At times we looked in disarray defensively, & just like Chelsea with Leeds earlier, we struggled to pick up the pace & match the opposition's intensity.
You could see this match meant everything to the Geordies, but we approached it like a standard PL game & it wasn't until after Trippier's free kick midway through the second half that we started to match their intensity & it was only then our extra quality told.
We scored the two goals to equalise & it became evident Newcastle were gonna be happy with a draw & were playing us on the counter & taking few defensive risks, unlike in the first.
When Rodri FINALLY upped his intensity, we began to tick & then it clicked & Newcastle were firmly of the mind of what we have, we hold.
I've no issues with the straight red being rescinded, as I was surprised when the card was shown. A yellow was the correct call.
I had a feeling of foreboding about this match, ESPECIALLY as the media kept playing up the "Almiron" comment from Grealish at the end of the season. I'd suggest that was the reason he wasn't in the squad & not because of a knock he received last weekend.
I reckon the Grealish comment & Newcastle wanting to test where they really are as a football team were the primary reasons why they played like this was a title or relegation decider.
Haaland played his best game for us today, by dropping deeper to add to our midfield numbers which created spaces where their central defence didn't know whether to advance to track him, or to drop off & leave the defensive midfielders to drop deep to cover him. Either way, he kept creating spaces for us to play in & was more involved in the game.
Overall it was our failure to raise our tempo to match Newcastle's until it was too late & Rodri's fuckin dawdling on the ball which ultimately cost us today. On reflection we got what we deserved, but at least we didn't drop all three points which was a distinct possibility based on our first half display.
Hopefully this is the wakeup call we needed to know we have to fight fire with fire for the whole game, or in the PL there's a good chance it will cost us. Gutted to lose two valuable points, but relieved to get one. :-|
Roll on Wednesday...
Disappointing but I take it as a point gained and not two points dropped. Could be a crucial point at the end of the season. We were defensively terrible as soon as Ake went off. Walker should have been took off after 20 mins you could tell he was struggling. Foden not squaring it for the second consecutive week is frustrating - think he is trying too hard myself. Erling was superb today, just surprised we never got to see Alvarez - think he could have been effective in that last 15.
Anyways onwards and upwards. Palace next, going to be tough. Zaha and Eze will fancy this after seeing our defence today. Need to be on it from the get go and I'd like to see Kalvin playing next to Rodri to help give the defence a bit more shield especially with Kyle and Joao basically in midfield. Any open spaces and Palace will punish us like they did last year. Probably have to sacrifice Gundo to get Kalv in which is unfortunate (between him and Kev) but he can always come back in for Forest who don't offer any threat on the break.
Anyways onwards and upwards. Palace next, going to be tough. Zaha and Eze will fancy this after seeing our defence today. Need to be on it from the get go and I'd like to see Kalvin playing next to Rodri to help give the defence a bit more shield especially with Kyle and Joao basically in midfield. Any open spaces and Palace will punish us like they did last year. Probably have to sacrifice Gundo to get Kalv in which is unfortunate (between him and Kev) but he can always come back in for Forest who don't offer any threat on the break.
Lavinda Past
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Yes. By a country mile.Is Ake right now our best defender genuine question. He's been brilliant last season and started this season brilliantly
Eddie Howe got his tactics spot on by exploiting the wide areas, particularly on the left. Pep announced his full backs into midfield ploy , repeating it from the west Ham game and Newcastle had the players to counter it.
Ok walker was playing to order, but ive always thought his atitude is akin to a complete dick. Going forward he offers us very little so why not play him to his strength as a conventional fullback ?
Also Ive always thought that a "transition" deliberate foul should carry more than just a yellow card. How about card plus sin bin ?
Ok walker was playing to order, but ive always thought his atitude is akin to a complete dick. Going forward he offers us very little so why not play him to his strength as a conventional fullback ?
Also Ive always thought that a "transition" deliberate foul should carry more than just a yellow card. How about card plus sin bin ?
Hayley Croppers chopper
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I like how you downgraded from wishing the worst on him to just a bad bad case of the trots.The guys a c*nt, f*ck him. Anti city at every opportunity. Get it enough without our past players sticking the knife in all the time. I hope he has a bad bad case of the trots.
Respect is due.