Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

[Don Karleone]

many like Robinho. Roque Santa Cruz. Jo. Wayne Bridge. Tal Ben Haim. Glauber. Emmanuel Adebayor.
like i said we spent millions on crap and only a few that was value for money

Adebayor was worth every penny, thank you very much.

 

[ancoats]

Just hold on. If you buy a load of players, some will fail; all clubs take a risk with transfers. But but but...which of the players you list, other than Robinho, were bought for "the wrong reasons"? Big Mal and Swales left some time ago!
I'll concede that Santa Cruz was a Hughes favourite and he seemed to be the only person not bothered about his sick note.

its more about the attitude from them players to the club and manager and what did they offer
newcastle will have to go through all of that before finding the right manager and players because of the money

its a gamble and no signing can offer the magic straight away even for newcastle
the premier league is not the league like it is in france and PSG ? so having the money is one thing spending it on the right people is another

 

[ganganvince]

many like Robinho. Roque Santa Cruz. Jo. Wayne Bridge. Tal Ben Haim. Glauber. Emmanuel Adebayor.
like i said we spent millions on crap and only a few that was value for money

You need to start at that level who are happy to come for the money to get the club into a position of challenging for trophies before the top class players will come.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I highly doubt we are but why do people insist on taking newspaper headlines at face value? We know more than enough about the media to understand they're constantly intent on whipping up hysteria by making a lurid headline out of a non-story. And naturally, the holier-than-thou Guardian is going to try to whip something relatively bureaucratic into the whole human rights angle.

I suspect there's two stories here. One will almost certainly involve the usual group of suspects - United, Arsenal, Liverpool & Spurs - who are shit-scared of this takeover. The other involves the 19 other members of the PL, which is a member-owned organisation, being annoyed that the PL didn't consult them or give them advance notice of their negotiations with the Saudis.

I think your first paragraph is almost certainly spot on but your second is vitally important. I'm sure the cartel are panic stricken at the mere thought of this takeover and having nightmares at the admiration of City in Ms Staveley's statements. They may well be forced to realise that the law in the United Kingdom does give protection to those trying to compete and doesn't see things through the protectionist eyes of US capitalism. I am really eager to hear the ruling we are promised in January because it may end this nonsense about City being a "state owned club" once and for all by making a clear distinction between ownership and control. Sheikh Mansour may be deputy PM of UAE but to say that the government of the UAE or Abu Dhabi controls City is the same as arguing that McMillans publishers were run by the UK government when Harold was PM in the late 1950s. I suspect that PL has been found to be acting in an anti-competitive manner - but what the detail is may be very interesting. What is it that scared PL so much that they caved in without even warning the cartel?!

 

[talkativesprout]

This made me chuckle from Sad Cafe

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I wish Newcastle well but I agree that it will take time - 5 to 10 years does not seem unreasonable before they rival us - and there are no guarantees. There's been a lot of attention paid to our transfer flops over the last few days but I think Ms Staveley is wise to follow our example rather than that of the "old money" clubs. It appears "oil money" isn't actually that dirty at all - Manchester United have spent well over a billion good, squeaky clean, pristine Cayman Isles greenbacks to win ... precisely nothing! What can have gone wrong?

 

[Magicpole]

Every club feeling anxious about FFP, should move to Scotand. Rangers havent complied for ten years, of operating with a loss funded by soft loans and nothing happens to them. You might need to change your name to Rangers though. If you go into a meeting with the SFA, just belt out the Sash and you will be fine.

 

[mat]

Sergio to the barcodes to save Barca. He'll be their Santa Cruz.

 

[Whether or not]

There is a clamour to immediately sack Bruce, but I am not so sure. Is he a competent manager keeping a Championship squad up, or a crap manager holding a premier league squad back? Whoever comes in will have mostly the same players until the summer and Newcastle don’t want to get relegated as the first step under new owners.

 

[chesterbells]

I think your first paragraph is almost certainly spot on but your second is vitally important. I'm sure the cartel are panic stricken at the mere thought of this takeover and having nightmares at the admiration of City in Ms Staveley's statements. They may well be forced to realise that the law in the United Kingdom does give protection to those trying to compete and doesn't see things through the protectionist eyes of US capitalism. I am really eager to hear the ruling we are promised in January because it may end this nonsense about City being a "state owned club" once and for all by making a clear distinction between ownership and control. Sheikh Mansour may be deputy PM of UAE but to say that the government of the UAE or Abu Dhabi controls City is the same as arguing that McMillans publishers were run by the UK government when Harold was PM in the late 1950s. I suspect that PL has been found to be acting in an anti-competitive manner - but what the detail is may be very interesting. What is it that scared PL so much that they caved in without even warning the cartel?!

Government involvement maybe??
As an aside I thought the new PL chairman (Richard Masterson?) was an appointment that had to be “approved” by the two red clubs - in that case I’m also surprised at how this panned out.