Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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Living up here near Newcastle, the buzz is amazing. They are getting well giddy and my usual easy supply of free match tickets has dried up. But the all of a sudden experts on Middle East geo influences and FFP etc is really funny. All the stuff I have being banging on about for 12 years and the fkrs ignored or even challenged. True Geordie was far more up the United/Liverpool back side than your average Newcastle supporter though.
 
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hammocity said:
Because the digital algorithms detect any unusual activity, type of customer, frequency of bets, arbitrage patterns, etc. Anything like that is flagged.

You are going back to a time when the most sophisticated technology available to bookmakers was a telephone.

Don’t worry though, there’s a lot of people who share your views, mostly not a clue about multi million pound hi tech betting companies, you’re in good company.
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Only those regulated though. You wouldn't get away with a dodgy bet through Ladbrokes or William Hill of course. Far more money goes through unregulated entities.
 
chesterbells said:
Having listened to what I would assume is their flagship football podcast on the matter which was released today, the unanimity of view expressed on this issue across all the journalists makes me highly cynical about their line - virtually no attempt at balance or perspective. The likes of Oliver Kay and Adam Crafton who iirc are from red club backgrounds and who have the gall to patronisingly call out City fans for being biased and parochial when our club was involved in a takeover. They also made the point that ‘well you have to draw the line somewhere, and that line should be football’ when addressing the point about all the other links UK and US has with Saudi and other Middle Eastern states. And to answer you directly, yes I do absolutely believe it is very convenient for the athletic to take this line so wholeheartedly. I’m not suggesting there might not be an outlier amongst them - I’d guess their NUFC correspondent might be one - but I’m suggesting both the ownership of the athletic and the influence of the red leaning journalists does matter on this.

‘Ridiculous paranoid delusions’ - a bit ott that tbh. I think the hyperbole is coming from you on this.
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You were only called ridiculous and delusional, I got called a moron.
 
domalino said:
I just found it hard to believe someone, even on here, has such ridiculous paranoid delusions.

But then why would someone say something as nonsensical as "US backed" to refer to a private company and act as if all American's are in alignment over anything, let alone football?
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It’d be as ridiculous as an American coming on here claiming companies don’t have vested interests.
 
Reckon today's the day for 'ald Elephant Head.

Heard an interesting rumour for them yesterday - Tarkowski. Always thought he could step up to a Leicester/Spurs maybe. If Newcastle are entering the first level of their journey, he's a good signing for me.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Reckon today's the day for 'ald Elephant Head.

Heard an interesting rumour for them yesterday - Tarkowski. Always thought he could step up to a Leicester/Spurs maybe. If Newcastle are entering the first level of their journey, he's a good signing for me.
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Surely they're not doing the player/manager route with all their money? ;)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Only those regulated though. You wouldn't get away with a dodgy bet through Ladbrokes or William Hill of course. Far more money goes through unregulated entities.
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Unregulated markets are becoming less frequent but obviously still exist. The fact is they still wouldn’t pay out on what is construed a dodgy bet and there’s no recourse to challenge the decision. Furthermore the only examples of influence from Far East betting was a rumble of spot betting on Premier League games a few years ago. It was on the first throw in and I believe no money was paid out.

There’s no incentive for players, and I’ll just quote Premier League players here, to be dishonest, it’s just not worth what would be small money to them, the consequences would be a total ban from football.

If there was any evidence of corruption in the English game it would be widely known. It’s absolute bollocks the Premiership can be influenced by betting, complete nonsense.
 
hammocity said:
Unregulated markets are becoming less frequent but obviously still exist. The fact is they still wouldn’t pay out on what is construed a dodgy bet and there’s no recourse to challenge the decision. Furthermore the only examples of influence from Far East betting was a rumble of spot betting on Premier League games a few years ago. It was on the first throw in and I believe no money was paid out.

There’s no incentive for players, and I’ll just quote Premier League players here, to be dishonest, it’s just not worth what would be small money to them, the consequences would be a total ban from football.

If there was any evidence of corruption in the English game it would be widely known. It’s absolute bollocks the Premiership can be influenced by betting, complete nonsense.
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I'm sure Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon will be delighted to hear that.
 
I’m sure I recall seeing a documentary about Newcastle United back when Sir John Hall owned the club. I remember the intimation being that the North East mafia were endemic in the club which was a real problem. It brought to mind Ali Fraser from series 2 of Auf Wiedershen Pet. Wonder if Ashley sorted that or is it on Staveley’s to do list.
 
I have a feeling this may end up like when Franny took over at City. Not many of the Toon army have a clue about the FFP regulations. One 50 years old plus season ticket holder who is a solicitor I worked with thinks they will be able to spend 1 billion over the next 2 transfer windows. He isn't the only one. Another is expecting Sterling, Kane, Haaland & Mbappe in January. When I laughed he took the huff.
In 1 way I hope it does come off as it will knock both reds down the q. However, if it fails I will have a good laugh at the daft Geordies
 
richardtheref said:
I have a feeling this may end up like when Franny took over at City. Not many of the Toon army have a clue about the FFP regulations. One 50 years old plus season ticket holder who is a solicitor I worked with thinks they will be able to spend 1 billion over the next 2 transfer windows. He isn't the only one. Another is expecting Sterling, Kane, Haaland & Mbappe in January. When I laughed he took the huff.
In 1 way I hope it does come off as it will knock both reds down the q. However, if it fails I will have a good laugh at the daft Geordies
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Brings back memories of the 2009 Jan window, when Torres (Fernando) was 'nailed on' for City.

These rumours will excite the Toon, of course, but will be nothing more than that. They have to start with the type of player who is better than what they currently have, maybe with the odd mercenary thrown in as well.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Saint-Maximin looks a decent player, could be very good in a better side.
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I don't know. He seems talented by might not do it in a bigger team there have been players like that, time will tell. He will have a better team at Newcastle next season most likely.
 
Bantamgaz said:
Talk of winning it 18 months ???? I will be decked if they win it within the next 5years .......... they have to pray that the likes of City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool drop off big time

if City get a world class striker in then they go to another level
If United get rid of Ole which sadly for you lot could be this season then it strengthens them ............ I mean come January are folk gonna wanna switch to a club that could be in a relegation battle ????
Like City found out from 2008 onwards everyone wants to beat you now ......... Newcastle will be the same.
The majority of clubs in the Premier will want them done knowing that next season they could be a major threat to there positions
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Manure has had how many new managers since SAF retired ? Just getting a new manager doesnt mean they'll be better , they need to get the right manager for that.
 
Grassland Blue said:
Always presuming that we aren't the ones to get pushed out...
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Given our record since our takeover there's nothing to indicate that. We're safe with Guardiola here and when he leaves we'll still most likely have one of the best squads in Europe. I'm certain that we will get a top manager as replacement.
We havent dropped out of top 4 since we climbed there in 2010-2011.
 
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