Next Labour Leader - Miliband Resigns

[KenTheLandlord]

"Fake Left?" Is that like a "Fake Result?"

You're preposterous.

I didn't think you needed to make a point, just highlighting some of the questionable views written.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Some fair points there and why the system needs a change.

I agree, mate. It's broken and needs completely rebuilding.

 

[The perfect fumble]

And you're thick as pigshit and a crap excuse for a left wing voice on here. You present liberalism as essentially "not conservatism" which is what it has been boiled down to on Bluemoon by you and your kind

How would you know? You think a jolly sponsored by a sanction busting pressure group is diplomatic, but being arrested outside the South African Embassy during the apartheid era is irrational.

You are right though about my inadequacies, I don't have the wherewithal to deal with your level of stupidity, and the unswerving confidence you posses, that anything you pluck out of your arse is absolute truth by dint of being scented by your shit.

 

[Damocles]

How would you know? You think a jolly sponsored by a sanction busting pressure group is diplomatic, but being arrested outside the South African Embassy during the apartheid era is irrational.

You are right though about my inadequacies, I don't have the wherewithal to deal with your level of stupidity, and the unswerving confidence you posses, that anything you pluck out of your arse is absolute truth by dint of being scented by your shit.

You think by describing things with flowery and biased language is making a point whereas I think making a point is making a point.

And I'm glad we both agree on your inadequacies, at least you're not ignorant aswell

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

All this talk of people being stupid is more than a little tiresome.


Can we at least agree that everyone is more stupid than me?

 

[The perfect fumble]

I didn't think you needed to make a point, just highlighting some of the questionable views written.

During the long years of apartheid, the South African regime and their friends, (and Thatcher was one, who saw Apartheid South Africa as a bullwark against Communism) tried unsucessfully to bring the regime in from the cold. They could not be too up front for fear of alienating Black Africa and others, and of course we officially supported various sanctions imposed on South African by the United Nations.

In 2006 when Cameron was trying to de-toxify the Tory brand......

"David Cameron dramatically denounced one of Margaret Thatcher's flagship foreign policies last night, saying that she was wrong to have branded Nelson Mandela's African National Congress as 'terrorists' and to have opposed sanctions against the apartheid regime in South Africa.....

His remarks were welcomed by veterans of the Anti-Apartheid Movement, who engaged in a fierce political battle with Thatcher during the 1980s as violence escalated in South Africa's townships while she resisted growing international pressure for sanctions to be imposed.....

Cameron writes: 'The mistakes my party made in the past with respect to relations with the ANC and sanctions on South Africa make it all the more important to listen now....

his intervention drew sharp criticism from some of the ex-Prime Minister's closest allies. Her former spokesman, Sir Bernard Ingham, said: 'I wonder whether David Cameron is a Conservative.....

Another former Tory minister, who did not wish to be named, said of the Cameron comments: 'They are ignorant.'

Labour's Northern Ireland Secretary, Peter Hain, who was a prominent anti-apartheid activist, reacted to the comments with a mix of scepticism and bitterness.

'I remember Conservative students of David Cameron's generation wearing "Hang Nelson Mandela" badges on campus,' he said. 'For those of us in the struggle - a bitter struggle, a life-and-death struggle - the Tories were the enemy as much as Pretoria.

'If the change is for real, I'm glad. But I wonder how many Tories are behind this change in mood music.'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/aug/27/uk.conservatives1

So, Cameron, late in day, but better late than never, recognised his party was wrong.

Jeremy Corbyn knew it all along.

 

[the god Gerry Gow]

All this talk of people being stupid is more than a little tiresome.


Can we at least agree that everyone is more stupid than me?

Erm.... I'm not sure I'm on board with that.

Course if you meant You and I then that's a different matter.


Amazing how Corbs has been right on everything all along. Makes you wonder why he hasn't been made leader before doesn't it

 

[The perfect fumble]

All this talk of people being stupid is more than a little tiresome.


Can we at least agree that everyone is more stupid than me?

You get my vote, but my second preference is Louise Mensch, so my judgement is questionable....

:-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You get my vote, but my second preference is Louise Mensch, so my judgement is questionable....

:-)

Can't fault you on either count, mate ;-)

 

[Rascal]

And this guy is one of the loudest voices on the Fake Left of Bluemoon. And I use Fake Left because they aren't actually supporting any left wing positions, they're just being wankers to people on the right politically. We don't really have a left wing on here, we just have a right wing and a "anything but the right wing" wing. These threads are going to go out in a blaze of glory extremely soon I imagine.

Seeing as though you totally ignored my last post about ideology and why your point in my opinion was wrong, i will try one last time.

What left wing positions in your opinion should i as a fake left winger take to prove my credentials as a real proper leftie?