Next Rail Strikes Announced.

Northern Rail and Trans Pennine, same day as Burnley at home.

Inconvenient. But that’s the whole idea of them.
 
BrianW said:
The clear shortage of train drivers implies they are not paid enough. Simple supply and demand which in other areas - say rentals - Tories say is both good and inevitable.

Alternatively, the shortage of train drivers is due to the train companies being too tight-arsed to employ sufficient of them, or to pay for their training.

Tories want to suspend the laws of supply and demand when they benefit working people, but not in any other situation. Fancy that!
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60k pa is a good salary, my mate joined Northern Rail as a guard in 2007 aged 39 with the promise he’d be in line for Train Driver training after his initial spell there. He’d left a very good (but boring) job working as a Pensions Manager at the Co-op in town.

Fast forward to today and he’s still a guard despite several applications for the Train Driver positions, he has asked the question several times why he’s not been given an opportunity but only gets “we don’t think you’re suitable and other candidates had more qualities than you”. He’s a very bright lad.

What makes it more galling for him is one of the lads we play golf told his Son in Law about the salary of Train Drivers at Northern Rail, he applied, didn’t have to start as a guard and got on the Training Programme, he’s now a fully fledged driver earning over 60k plus overtime, go figure.
 
hammocity said:
60k pa is a good salary, my mate joined Northern Rail as a guard in 2007 aged 39 with the promise he’d be in line for Train Driver training after his initial spell there. He’d left a very good (but boring) job working as a Pensions Manager at the Co-op in town.

Fast forward to today and he’s still a guard despite several applications for the Train Driver positions, he has asked the question several times why he’s not been given an opportunity but only gets “we don’t think you’re suitable and other candidates had more qualities than you”. He’s a very bright lad.

What makes it more galling for him is one of the lads we play golf told his Son in Law about the salary of Train Drivers at Northern Rail, he applied, didn’t have to start as a guard and got on the Training Programme, he’s now a fully fledged driver earning over 60k plus overtime, go figure.
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He was either lied to or he mistook a “promise” for an opportunity to apply.
 
Stephen230 said:
He was either lied to or he mistook a “promise” for an opportunity to apply.
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Definitely, he’s a staunch Labour supporter but that shouldn’t have gone against him, as I said he always got the same answer when he questioned why he wasn’t given a chance. At 56 he’s now given up, he’s been shrewd with his income, investments and pensions so he’s not too bothered but if he’d got the drivers job he’d probably be over 100k better off.
 
Stephen230 said:
He was either lied to or he mistook a “promise” for an opportunity to apply.
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Just spoke to him, it’s only the Driver’s who are on strike now, the rest have settled and he’s working on the 31’st. Apparently they have a limited service on.
 
hammocity said:
60k pa is a good salary, my mate joined Northern Rail as a guard in 2007 aged 39 with the promise he’d be in line for Train Driver training after his initial spell there. He’d left a very good (but boring) job working as a Pensions Manager at the Co-op in town.

Fast forward to today and he’s still a guard despite several applications for the Train Driver positions, he has asked the question several times why he’s not been given an opportunity but only gets “we don’t think you’re suitable and other candidates had more qualities than you”. He’s a very bright lad.

What makes it more galling for him is one of the lads we play golf told his Son in Law about the salary of Train Drivers at Northern Rail, he applied, didn’t have to start as a guard and got on the Training Programme, he’s now a fully fledged driver earning over 60k plus overtime, go figure.
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In a lot of industries seniority was used to promote people so start at the bottom and pretty much get promoted unless totally unsuitable on service this practice was outlawed due to age discrimination legislation possibly he got caught up in that?
 
hammocity said:
60k pa is a good salary, my mate joined Northern Rail as a guard in 2007 aged 39 with the promise he’d be in line for Train Driver training after his initial spell there. He’d left a very good (but boring) job working as a Pensions Manager at the Co-op in town.

Fast forward to today and he’s still a guard despite several applications for the Train Driver positions, he has asked the question several times why he’s not been given an opportunity but only gets “we don’t think you’re suitable and other candidates had more qualities than you”. He’s a very bright lad.

What makes it more galling for him is one of the lads we play golf told his Son in Law about the salary of Train Drivers at Northern Rail, he applied, didn’t have to start as a guard and got on the Training Programme, he’s now a fully fledged driver earning over 60k plus overtime, go figure.
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He's probably too good at his job.

Railway management like blocking people who do their job and promoting "problematic" staff. For example a well known sick note couldn't get up for 3 am starts and had to be in bed by 8pm. Was given flexible working and has been promoted to driver. The depot manager said he was relieved when they got the job.
 
Zubrman said:
Next strike days announced:

Avanti West Coast - Sat 3rd Feb
C2C - Fri 2nd Feb
Chiltern - Mon 5th Feb
CrossCountry - Mon 5th Feb
East Midlands - Sat 3rd Feb
Great Western - Mon 5th Feb
Greater Anglia - Fri 2nd Feb
GTR Great Northern Thameslink - Tue 30th Jan
Island Line - Tue 30th Jan
LNER - Fri 2nd Feb
Northern - Wed 31st Jan
South Western - Tue 30th Jan
Southeastern - Tue 30th Jan
Southern/Gatwick Express - Tue 30th Jan
Transpennine - Wed 31st Jan
West Midlands - Sat 3rd Feb
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I'll support the Nottingham pickets as they supported us.
 
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