Neymar

Funny as fuck all this by La Liga...

It will happen imo but not without much teeth gnashing, wringing of hands, and promises to implement tighter FFP to stop nasty Arab money backed clubs stealing talent from top European sides
 
Looking that the stats it seems to me neymar is very much over rated.
He only scored 13 league goals in the last season. Whereas messi scored 37 and suarez 35. Morata scored 15 and sergio ramos got 7.

He has now ruined his career by joining psg.
He won't ever reach the heights of ronaldo and messi.

The next great player like ronaldo or messi will be someone from mbappe, jesus, Dembele or Sane.
 
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but aren't they playing a dangerous game here by refusing to let him buy out his contract? Won't he be allowed to claim that they've breached the contract by not allowing him to do so? Then just walk away from the contract without having to pay the £200m
 
BigOscar said:
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but aren't they playing a dangerous game here by refusing to let him buy out his contract? Won't he be allowed to claim that they've breached the contract by not allowing him to do so? Then just walk away from the contract without having to pay the £200m
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Not fully clued up on this, but my understanding is they haven't refused to let him buy out his contract, they have refused to let PSG buy out his contract, from my understanding of the way this works which could be way off they are entitled to do that as it's a player buyout.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
t's like going round in circles with these morons over the issue. In essence, what they want is a system where you can only spend what you earn but clubs cannot invest to improve. A consequence of which will allow United to cherry-pick what ever players they want from the rest of the PL in a similar manner to Bayern, Barca and Madrid.
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FFP in a nutshell. Well formulated and precise.
 
Jazzman said:
FFP in a nutshell. Well formulated and precise.
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That's why it's piss funny that we slipped through the door before they tried slamming it shut. Tried their best but no matter how hard they try they can no longer get us to go away.
 
blueparrot said:
Not fully clued up on this, but my understanding is they haven't refused to let him buy out his contract, they have refused to let PSG buy out his contract, from my understanding of the way this works which could be way off they are entitled to do that as it's a player buyout.
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Who pays it is just a technicality though, they can just as easily hand Neymar the money and he hands it to Barca, the point is they are refusing to let him do something that is in his contract for this very purpose.
 
BigOscar said:
Who pays it is just a technicality though, they can just as easily hand Neymar the money and he hands it to Barca, the point is they are refusing to let him do something that is in his contract for this very purpose.
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It's not though. The rumour is Neymar is buying it himself and not PSG, which is the major, major issue here as it straight kills the entire market in terms of release clauses and their relationship with FFP.
 
BigOscar said:
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but aren't they playing a dangerous game here by refusing to let him buy out his contract? Won't he be allowed to claim that they've breached the contract by not allowing him to do so? Then just walk away from the contract without having to pay the £200m
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Very good question .
 
BigOscar said:
Who pays it is just a technicality though, they can just as easily hand Neymar the money and he hands it to Barca, the point is they are refusing to let him do something that is in his contract for this very purpose.
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I thought if that happened Neymar would get taxed as the money would be income,so PSG have to give Neymar the 220 mill plus any tax.Thought that was the point of PSG paying the money direct, as I say though no real understanding of all this.
If I am right though I can see why Barca would make it as awkward and expensive as they could for PSG to force them to sell.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
It's like going round in circles with these morons over the issue. In essence, what they want is a system where you can only spend what you earn but clubs cannot invest to improve. A consequence of which will allow United to cherry-pick what ever players they want from the rest of the PL in a similar manner to Bayern, Barca and Madrid.
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If you have ever been to the soccer subreddit on reddit, it's phenomenal how many people just don't understand FFP. Whether in denial, or just plain misunderstanding, it's crazy how people think it was designed to make things "fair". Everyone talks about Portsmouth, and how it's supposed to prevent that. That's just sleight-of-hand to the public when the whole point was to allow those that established themselves at the right time 20/30 years ago, would continue to be comfortable without the risk.
 
RandomJ said:
That's why it's piss funny that we slipped through the door before they tried slamming it shut. Tried their best but no matter how hard they try they can no longer get us to go away.
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We're now part of the establishment at the top table and it'll only be a matter of time before we are agree with a number of these initiatives to try and prevent the likes of Everton from competing with us. It's all about self-preservation and I fear that we will follow a similar path.

That said, I think that us being able to compete with the likes of Bayern, Barca and United is only half of the problem. What UEFA are shitting themselves at is the prospect of us leaving them in the dust. That is why the Neymar move has hit a nerve as it is official that not only can PSG outspend the biggest clubs in the world, they can also entice their key players away.

For all the money we and PSG have spent, it is still United, Real and Barca who have sanctioned the world's most expensive transfers. Neymar and possibly Mbappe to us is the hammer in the nail of the coffin as far as the 'old dominance' is concerned and the real question is how do they match us?

That brings me nicely to the real reason why I cannot stand UEFA and the old cartel, they didn't bat an eye lid when United and Madrid were breaking records and leaving other clubs in the dust. However, the moment they are given a taste of their own medicine they call 'foul play'. Utter ****s the lot of them.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
It's not though. The rumour is Neymar is buying it himself and not PSG, which is the major, major issue here as it straight kills the entire market in terms of release clauses and their relationship with FFP.
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Think the issue is more where the money Neymar is using to buy out is coming from, if it's a third party then as far as FFP is concerned he is then a free agent and PSG get him for nothing.
 
blueparrot said:
Think the issue is more where the money Neymar is using to buy out is coming from, if it's a third party then as far as FFP is concerned he is then a free agent and PSG get him for nothing.
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That's my point. Essentially the cartel clubs have been sat comfortably in the assumption that FFP combined with the high release clauses are rendering stars unbuyable. PSG have pulled a sideways move with this and it will cause chaos if it happens, hence La Liga going nuts.
 
bluegray said:
Easy this. Neymar asks for a loan off a bank in Qatar for £198m interest free. Payments being £1m a week over 4 years. He then does promotional work in Qatar at least 1 day a week which he gets paid £1m per week. Pays what ever his tax is on his PSG wages in France and tax on his promotional work in Qatar which might be tax free.
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Not close to easy. He'd pay French tax on worldwide income (including that earned in Qatar).
 
unlikelyfan19 said:
If you have ever been to the soccer subreddit on reddit, it's phenomenal how many people just don't understand FFP. Whether in denial, or just plain misunderstanding, it's crazy how people think it was designed to make things "fair". Everyone talks about Portsmouth, and how it's supposed to prevent that. That's just sleight-of-hand to the public when the whole point was to allow those that established themselves at the right time 20/30 years ago, would continue to be comfortable without the risk.
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It's also laughable how FFP only seems to be a major talking point when it affects the top table.

I remember Baconface congratulating Dave Wheelan when Wigan won the FA cup saying he deserved it for all he had done for the club. That's conveniently ignoring the bank-rolling he gave Wigan to rise into the PL in the first place or when Leicester were comfortably the biggest spenders in the Championship in order to get promoted to the PL.

Just look at the rise of Salford City. Would they be getting back to back televised FA cup games if it wasn't for their owners? or would they be getting a lucrative sponsor from Sky? That's an owner using their contacts to get a good deal for the club. Just like Chelsea have done with Gazprom, or Liverpool with New Balance, or United with Cheverlot. But when City do that .... I think we all know the score.

Then again, as long as those clubs 'know their place' and don't try and consistently break the top 4 then the 'big boys' don't really care.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Why would they need to convince America?

They are one of the few countries still propping them up and have a huge airforce base in Qatar.

This isn't about getting one over Abu Dhabi or any other Arab state.

PSG tried last year to sign Neymar also.

Simply the case Neymar had his head turned and the rest is easy.

Same would go for us if it had been Messi

Paris are well within their rights, as should any club be if they can afford it.

Personally, I don't rate him half as highly as millions seem to, but he's a global brand and will stroll that league.[/QUOT

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