Nicola Sturgeon

[Ancient Citizen]

ah, but we will have our freedom!!!!!!!!

I love films with a happy ending;)

 

[blueparrot]

What will swing it imo is 5 more years of Boris. That will do it.

Or Corbyn, either will be good for SNP support.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

If she wants independence that bad let the rest of the UK vote and she will definitely get it

This is the paradox facing her and the whole SNP, they want independence, fine, and they know for
sure, that if the vote was UK wide, the English vote would sweep them to power, but only because of
the 'Well, just go, and get out of our parliament' support of most English. So they get what they want
by the tacit encouragement of those they're desperate to see the back of.
Which sort of ruins the fun for the Braveheart contingent.

 

[Ban-jani]

What makes her more successful, and likeable than the other leaders, isnt that she promotes Scottish nationalism. in many ways, that doesnt need promoted much. It is that she promotes Scottish social and progressive values, ones based on inclusivity, humanity and an ambition for growth. Something claimed scotland have never had the chance to pursue under Westminster. With nationalism and independence portrayed as the method/vehicle of achieving them.

Unlike the inward-looking, exclusive, 'everyone is below us', conservative, and largely xenophobic drive behind brexit as an end result to enable a 'return to a better time when we could just be ourselves'.

Sure, neither apply to all, there are moderates and the extreme in both. but as underlying ideologies, they are certainly pursued and promoted completely differently.

Just swap brown immigrants that UKIP don’t like for the English and you’ve got the SNP.

Same shite, different side of the coin.

 

[Coatigan]

Just swap brown immigrants that UKIP don’t like for the English and you’ve got the SNP.

Same shite, different side of the coin.

Some things, opinion or not, are just plain wrong. and this my friend is one of them.

 

[LeeJay]

Wait for the arguments about Scottish Army regiments and bases north of the wall and what happens to them.

Independence isn't happening anytime soon and she knows it.

Threat, threat, threat and a bit more devolution is handed to them and they get what they wanted all along.....rinse and repeat.

Very fair evaluation of it, i agree :)

But on that side of the argument, i'm a big fan of allowing Scotland / Ireland and Welsh assembly's to have as much power in their own affairs as they can while remaining part of an economic and social union - ie without hard borders.

 

[Ban-jani]

Some things, opinion or not, are just plain wrong. and this my friend is one of them.

It isn’t, sadly.

Nationalism in all its forms leads to hatred.

 

[Magicpole]

No one stays in power so long if they aren't getting it right. The right wing media have done a job on her as is evidenced by some of the replies. We go to the he ballot box again soon and we will see how the people who have her vote. That should tell you something, but no doubt it won't for some.

 

[Magicpole]

It isn’t, sadly.

Nationalism in all its forms leads to hatred.

An unfortunate name but we are not nationalists in the xenophobia form. Most people voting for it now are left wing ex Labour like myself. The name is a **** though. We want migration because we desperately need it. We want to stay in the aEu. We tax our richest more. We want free health and education.W want to lead the world in fighting climate change. We aren't right wing.

 

[blueparrot]

It isn’t, sadly.

Nationalism in all its forms leads to hatred.

It's miles off.For a start they want FOM and more immigration. Alot of those that I know are planning to vote for them are English.